On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:54:48 -0500 Ben Gamari <bgamari.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Excerpts from Patrick Goetz's message of Fri Mar 05 13:27:52 -0500 > 2010: > > So of course it only took a little digging to discover that smbd > > and nmbd are now services started separately, and that (bizarrely) > > there is now a winbind daemon which is still started > > from /etc/init.d, but nevertheless a bit unnerving. (And why and > > since when has winbind been a separate daemon, anyway?! But I > > digress.) > > With all due respect, you are using alpha software. Documentation is > generally one of the last things to be completed. I would hope these > init changes will be thoroughly documented before release. Moreover, > it sounds like most of what confused you were changes in Samba's > packaging, not upstart itself. At the same time, it never hurts to be reminded, most of all about missing docs. <snip/> > > > > Again, some people, possibly myself, are old, feeble-minded, and > > distracted with lots of problems that go beyond the function of > > basic linux server services, hence discomfited when > > start/stop/restart commands that have worked for 10 years are > > suddenly missing with no explanation of how to proceed in the new > > world order. > > > Certainly, but if you are having difficulty with this, you probably > ought to stick with releases. I am sorry, but I do not agree. The difficulty one (be it Patrick, or whoever) is having on a development release will probably be even greater after a release. Even more, we *need* testers, and we *need* to have feedback. Feedback after the release of a version will probably only be acted on for the next release, while feedback during development allows for (possible) action in time for the release. I would rather have a lot of (even misguided) feedback than none at all (and, by the way, I think Patrick is raising some good points). Cheers, ..C..
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