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Today's Topics:
1. Print Dialog / Improving "Print to file" option
(Lanoxx)
2. Re: Print Dialog / Improving "Print to file" option
(Lanoxx)
3. Re: Print Dialog / Improving "Print to file" option
(Dale Amon)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:08:51 +0200
From: Lanoxx <
lan...@gmx.net>
To:
desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org,
ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Print Dialog / Improving "Print to file" option
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c
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Hi,
I would like to know if the Print dialog that is used in
Ubuntu, is
provided by a Gnome package or whether it is added by
Ubuntu. In
particular, there is a default printer option named Print to
File in
Ubuntu, and when it is chosen, then one can print to PDF,
Postscript or
SVG (at least in Inkscape). The problem with this dialog
makes saving
the file unnecessary complicated, because on has to first
select the
folder which normally requires at least 4 clicks:
1. click on the dropdown
2. click "other..."
3. Choose the folder (might require more clicks)
4. click open
Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane person will
probably
want to change. So I have to type the file name and then
also add .pdf
again and finally I can click "Print".
There are another two caveats here, first if I forget to add
".pdf" to
the filename, then the file will be saved without the ".pdf"
extension.
There is no logic to add it automatically. And second if I
had printed
the document to a file before and now I want to save it
again, then I
have to remember the file name and type it in again (also
having to
select the folder again). If I make a typo, then I end up
with two files
instead of overwriting the first one.
IMHO, it would me much easier, if there was only one long
input field
and a button "Browse" next to it, which when clicked just
opens a file
selection dialog, where one can enter the file name AND
folder name
together, additionally this dialog should remember the last
name that
was used to print, and also automatically supply the
extension (e.g
.pdf, or .ps) based on the type that was selected.
So my question is, if this comes from Gnome or from Ubuntu
so I can
create a bug in the right bug tracker for this, and maybe
someone could
also point me to the code for the "Print to File" Options.
Maybe I could
even fix this myself.
Kind Regards
Lanoxx
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:38:15 +0200
From: Lanoxx <
lan...@gmx.net>
To: Javier Jard?n <
jjar...@gnome.org>
Cc:
ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com,
desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Print Dialog / Improving "Print to file" option
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On 15/08/12 20:27, Javier Jard?n wrote:
> On 15 August 2012 23:08, Lanoxx <
lan...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
> Hello,
>
>> Then the filename says output.pdf which any sane
person will probably want
>> to change. So I have to type the file name and then
also add .pdf again and
>> finally I can click "Print".
> FYI, There is a GnomeGoal proposed related to this [1]
>
> [1]
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/PrintToFile
Thats a great goal, and should definitely be implemented.
But still it
does not solve the actual problem which I described. I also
looked here:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c
but I can't find any GtkWidget being created, so I guess
thats not it.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:28:32 -0700
From: Dale Amon <
a...@vnl.com>
To: Lanoxx <
lan...@gmx.net>
Cc:
ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com,
Javier Jard?n
<
jjar...@gnome.org>,
desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Print Dialog / Improving "Print to file" option
Message-ID: <
20120816012832.gw27...@vnl.com>
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:38:15PM +0200, Lanoxx wrote:
> On 15/08/12 20:27, Javier Jard?n wrote:
> >On 15 August 2012 23:08, Lanoxx <
lan...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >Hello,
> >
> >>Then the filename says output.pdf which any
sane person will probably want
> >>to change. So I have to type the file name and
then also add .pdf again and
> >>finally I can click "Print".
> >FYI, There is a GnomeGoal proposed related to this
[1]
> >
> >[1]
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/PrintToFile
> Thats a great goal, and should definitely be
implemented. But still
> it does not solve the actual problem which I described.
I also
> looked here:
>
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c
> but I can't find any GtkWidget being created, so I
guess thats not it.
I agree with the idea of standardizing on a file browser
window
for selecting the file and adding in the defaults in an
editable way.
I very often save things to file with names like
file1.pdf
file2.pdf
file2a.pdf
file3.pdf
and so forth, so memory is useful. It would also be nice if
I there
was some memory such that if you printed to file the last
time, it
pops up the next time just as you left it. I do not know
about
others but 'least surprise' for me is that things are always
left
as I last used them.
It would also be useful to have a 'recently used' capability
that
just puts you to the file name and printer of one of the
last N
files you have printed. Useful if you forgot where you put
something;
or in a large facility, which of multiple printers in
several
buildings did you send that thing you printed before going
out to
lunch; also useful if you want to go back and do a print to
file
of the something under a similar name. Hell, you might even
try
remembering the source URL as well as the destination
printer or
file name.
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