Quoting Jordon Bedwell (jor...@envygeeks.com): > > Do you see any added value to a 'splash screen' hiding *everything* that > > is happening on *SERVER* installs? > Disable it? It takes but one obvious edit inside of /etc/default/grub. > Pro tip: - quiet splash + nosplash > Pro tip: update-grub
Thanks. I am aware of your 'pro-tips'. If you had actually read the thread before hitting reply you would have seen my hints to Dale about the various nosplash, noplymouth, vga=xx and verboseness parameters. (Which, adressing your follow-up mail, work for installers and installed systems alike. For me, this is about installed Ubuntu systems. Not installers.) The 'nosplash' param indeed disables the splashscreen, just like hitting ESC would. Still, compared to booting Ubuntu pre-plymouth, there's not really much usefull information shown on the console about what is actually going on. There have been situations when there were no messages being logged to the screen and the system would not continue booting either. This is why i normally use 'init="/sbin/init -v"' and INIT_VERBOSE=yes, but it still is rather messy due to the parallel starting of services. > > And framebuffered consoles. I can see *some* value of having larger > > terminals than the default 80x24. > And this is more constructive than my comments? Jump in and help fix > them bugs. Complaining is not any more constructive than what I did, I should indeed put effort in getting framebuffers working out-of-the-box on all my systems. You are totally correct in that aspect. But this is not my main pet peeve. As said, i can make framebuffers work by specifying a specific vga=xxx parameter that does work. My question boils down to why server installs need all this doohickey. In my opinion it shouldn't be this hard to get back to what is actually going on during boot of a server install. I'm totally pro these gadgets in desktop installs, really, but this makes Ubuntu feel 'Windows™®©-y', if i may use that word. Stuff happens behind 'the screen' and it makes debugging bootproblems unnecessarily hard for sysadmins running Ubuntu on serverhardware in colocating environments. -Sndr. -- | 1 1 was a racehorse, 2 2 was 1 2, 1 1 1 1 race 1 day, 2 2 1 1 2 | 4096R/20CC6CD2 - 6D40 1A20 B9AA 87D4 84C7 FBD6 F3A9 9442 20CC 6CD2 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss