On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:23:47 +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
>Ralf Mardorf:
>> It's not a bug of the package management, it's an user error.  
>
>What is the likelihood of these people making the error?:
>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Average%20users

"Average users are humans that you can found in the street. This is to
say, usually they aren't computer technicians."


Hi,

humans need to learn the most simple things, e.g. to use forks and
knives, without being a maker of forks and knives.

Please recommend how thought-reading should be done by a package
manager?

Debian/Ubuntu already split optional dependencies. Some optional
dependencies are recommended and others are suggested. This is not done
by upstream of the software and user-centric distros such as Arch don't
provide it.

The default is to install recommended dependencies, but not suggested
dependencies. There are different ways to change the default, one is to
temporarily disable it by using apt-get with the
"--no-install-recommends" option.

Assumed the default would become to install no optional dependencies,
then a lot of your averaged users will complain to get incomplete
applications.

Any idea how to solve this? Sure, autoremove could consider recommended
dependencies as automatically installed, but likely already now some
users complain that autoremove uninstalls software they still want to
use.

IOW what you consider as not being user-friendly is the lowest common
denominator for your so called averaged user. It's not that way to fit
to the needs of geeks.

Regards,
Ralf
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