-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/19/2012 11:20 PM, Rick Spencer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Michael Casadevall > <mcasadev...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > . >> >> Many critical issues with ARM (and to a lesser extent x86) have >> only been found during milestone testing. Without a set of >> defined and organized images for testing, more obscure parts of >> the installer simply do not get tested; for instance, how many >> people are going to test all possible server configurations or >> test the installer with no network. > But, again, why is the set of "defined organized testing" for > milestones? That seems much too infrequent. Dependence on > milestones is creating a lack of quality in this area, not > improving it. We should not be allowing days to go by without a > usable image. And, again, this is completely orthogonal to whether > we freeze the archive for milestones, or have milestones at all. In > other words, milestones seem a poor means to accomplish your goals > here. We should organize a more rigorous and frequent cadence of > testing for ARM images.
I for one greatly welcome the return of return of more manual testing. Due to the massive number of images for ARM due the unique quirks of the architecture, and the limited manpower behind said efforts, the coverage per image was unfortunately lacking. Because of the amount of work, certain images were not as rigorously tested as they should have and as a result both Beta 2 for and the release candidate for the omap4 images were both woefully under-tested, and were only brought back up to a releasable quality at the zero-hour due to the herculean efforts of far too many parties to list. This new manual testing initiative should prevent us from ever having such a crisis ever again. That being said, due to the sheer number of ARM images due to the unique one-image-per-board that ARM requires, the lack of manpower has been a constant issue, and our previous manual testing efforts were woefully undermanned (granted, at the time, we had over 10-15 actively supported images). Although we do not have multiple image types as with x86 (live/alternate), we still have 6 images that are officially supported as of this moment. * Ubuntu Desktop for armhf+omap4 * Ubuntu Server for armhf+omap4 * Ubuntu Core for armhf * Netboot for armhf+omap4 * Netboot for armhf+armadaxp * Netboot for armhf+highbank (this obviously does not take into account any additional subarchitectures or flavors that may be added during quantal development). Michael -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP4g+/AAoJEHM+GkLSJHY5NmcP/i185phR+AkeQRG6tqB0hz6E ofT4cWeFtkZO6pdZQa1NOYLrKloy3yVPug/H4xiSdgq59PQpAVqixZTuFxD/cZOR SwcobYIY6aJZAoq+7UDd/6tlgNTR0ymCPu2inrNpp1ieW50BA7Y3YZbZsrn7Bwjj 3ueDClQvLJAH7FxJKJPfl6mN9xGiPKOyDltAI1qV+KeEpuQQdMkkMO9ABESroq0H VX4n64a/9RpWaA5BhSa1TlXU2ajOEltk+YFzHRQiQX3q/3pfzDQQ2JTl1du04LTG AzCb4WbP6LZfFrt4l4378YaCrOfjTiqvjBU2V4GrwllRmM931Pg0t3tW405mNYdw +pR5JVJiNR9FQYvltyv9QJSREN+k820mK7P26QUGii6XN5rwxmP8EelmU54DlMiV JfFr7rO1g2Pf91iVEwqysFBHhtddN4sAjCE9kkwUwuKFAPo/qZ9/mgK/wBcQADxE yYCZywTiPUnK5ijvVHfzuK5qeHMoVSbFf7CKX+b4a8NliuAIyG189g58cyrKQSC7 h03KuCOe72KVDIfLpiVvYRaJ8R0f6Y6lEBpkasmAXVytWQ79k1fSnXhHXmb1sFvZ WgEoT0z6fvejB23W7CO3qVD2ZyT6Z3JAvKnk7tyLJrwJX829rG95qH9SHIGwt5sO uTfV2BKY0xBbbIdK3vbX =0EJ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel