On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 05:50:52PM -0400, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote: > > The established Ubuntu desktop is composed entirely of software that talks > > to X. While some of this software may "easily" migrate to Mir by way of > > toolkit support, I think there's no question that Canonical will need to > > support X - specifically, X on top of Mir - for quite some time to come.
> > So in the 14.04 time frame, I think it's a safe bet that Lubuntu will have > > options for continuing to run on top of a supported X server. Mir may not > > give you anything new that you care about in Lubuntu, but Mir+XMir should > > still provide a reasonable, stable, supported display platform for you. > > The problems for Kubuntu, AIUI, have more to do with what happens when > > Canonical supports X on top of Mir, and KDE stops supporting either X or > > Mir. I suspect this isn't going to be a problem for Lubuntu in the near > > future? > As neither Micah nor Lionel have chimed in, I'll tread in as a > non-developer briefly. From the Xubuntu perspective, we're still at the > wait-and-see point to see how XonMir will perform. The big concern raised > in discussion in the land of the mouse is the nature of the X stack and > where it will go. > If I understand the flow of discussion correctly, a bit of friction > results from the use of generalities too. While noted above that X would > need to be supported for some time to come, much of what has not been > spoken of in this context is what that means in terms of a ballpark > figure. Two years? Five years? Until 16.04? Narrowing down that > generality may help with that seeming friction point. The point I was making is that, for the 14.04 timeframe, nearly all (if not all) desktop software we will care about supporting in the 14.04 LTS will be X-using applications. This implies that XMir will need to be supported for the support lifetime of 14.04 LTS itself. I can't speculate how many releases /past/ 14.04 XMir will remain relevant for Canonical, but I expect the community will have plenty of advanced warning by which to make their own plans. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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