Hello, My only concern is the administration of the page. Right now there are 15 people. What will happen when they are 1015? Don't you have local Ubuntu community? You can spam news about Ubuntu GNOME and GNOME there. If there is a problem related to Ubuntu, there will be more people to reply. If it's related to GNOME, you can take action. You can post there about your effort to translate Ubuntu GNOME wiki, so even if people who doesn't use Ubuntu GNOME can help you.
Regarding the logos etc, although you're right about it, YOU ALL have to reconsider everything. When someone uses logos-names etc to promote and grow the community, it's OK to use it. If he wants to earn money out of it, then it MUST be reported and the right people will take care of it. I'll add some case studies. 1. Someone wants to go to conference and present Ubuntu GNOME. First of all, is it acceptable to use the logos at his presentation? He also wants to print couple of brocheres about Ubuntu GNOME and how to contribute. Is it possible to use logos there? Text only brochures isn't that good. Regariding other communities, this is totally acceptable, if you use the exact logos and not custom ones. 2. Somone wants to go to conference as Ubuntu GNOME presence and he'll be at Ubuntu booth. Let's say that Ubuntu local community made some promo materials (not sure if it's happening in general) and they sell them to cover expenses (such as promo materials creation, prints etc). Is it acceptable to do use any Ubuntu GNOME artwork? Visitors, linux users in general, like to buy promo materials in my country. Unfortunately, FOSS communities (and supporting companies-foundations) doesn't send promo materials. Regarding GNOME, as far as I know, they let you print T-shirts and sell them. You can cover the cost of printing and send the rest to Foundation. It's harder (and more expensive) if you ask them to send you T-shirts to sell them and send them the money. What if someone sells T-Shirts without tell the Foundation? Well, the visitors can report him to the board and he has to prove them that he made a donation or send money to Foundation somehow. It's so simple. Anyways, I better end it here. Don't forget to have phun, Stathis 2014-12-19 16:30 GMT+02:00 Carlos Vinícius Ferrer <carlosvfer...@gmail.com>: > Hello guys, > > Shure, Ali... > I'll take care of the group and, where possible, I'll inform the group is > unofficial and that the group only has the intention to share experiences > and make new friends. > > Thanks, again. > > > ;) > > 2014-12-19 2:26 GMT-03:00 Ali/amjjawad <amjja...@gnome.org>: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Tim <dark...@fastmail.fm> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 19/12/14 15:37, Carlos Vinícius Ferrer wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello everybody, >> >> >> Hi, >> >>> >>> > >>> > I understand perfectly what you wrote and I apologize for the hasty >>> > creation of the group. In the description of the group I made a point to >>> > say that the group is unofficial Ubuntu GNOME group and just deleted >>> > the image with the logo. But if you believe it is better to delete the >>> > group, I can delete. >>> > >>> I don't see any problem for this group to exist as unofficial community, >>> as long as your careful of the points that Keith made. >> >> >> Ditto. >> >> As long as these 'unofficial' groups whether on facebook or google+ >> (communities as what google label it) follow the notes that Keith suggested >> (which myself and Tim agree on), I too see no harm but scourge to create >> more with different languages. >> >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> > >>> > I'm enjoying being part of Ubuntu GNOME team and what's best for the >>> > team, I will do. >> >> >> You just need to make sure you can handle these group because from our >> side, I'm afraid we can't handle more channels at the moment and above all, >> we don't speak other languages. >> >> @Artwork Team >> Could you please be so kind and create a banner for this group? you can >> send me the SVG file once done so I could change it every time we need that >> :) >> >> Make it looks like as unofficial banner possible :P >> >> If that's too much, then perhaps Carlos needs to come up with his own >> banner? >> >> >> >>> >>> Now, Im going to sleep because it is too late in Brazil >>> > and I'm tired. >>> > >> >> >> Sleep well and once you wake up, let me know so we could share the link of >> that group so hopefully more people from Brazil could join ;) >> >> >>> >>> > Thanks, guys. And sorry again... >> >> >> No need to be sorry! >> We thank you for your great support ;) >> >> >>> >>> > >>> > Em 19/12/2014 02:06, "Keith I Myers" <keithiokepamy...@gmail.com >>> > <mailto:keithiokepamy...@gmail.com>> escreveu: >>> > >>> > Good Morning All, >>> > First, sorry for my slow responses, I am in the process of >>> > remodeling the house and my desk is still not put back together. That is >>> > my >>> > goal for tomorrow. I wanted to weigh in on this a bit, forgive me >>> > for rambling but this is to encourage discussion. >>> > >>> > Ubuntu has always been a distribution that valued the community as >>> > a whole, and by extension, Ubuntu Gnome should also share this value. >>> > Communities can be both officially sanctioned by the Ubuntu GNOME >>> > team as well as by community members as unofficial communities. With >>> > this said, there are a few limits that need to be respected, >>> > regardless of the decision. >>> > >>> > * Canonical owns trademarks to the Ubuntu branding and the use of >>> > it in unofficial communities may be frowned upon. >>> > * If the group were to give the illusion of an official >>> > community, control of the community should be in the hands of the Ubuntu >>> > GNOME >>> > team rather than an individual person. >>> > * If the group were to exist as an unofficial annex to the Ubuntu >>> > GNOME main communities, then it would need to mention that as such. >>> > All logos would need to be used in accordance to the Ubuntu >>> > Branding Guidelines. >>> > * Having communities of like minded users who speak the same >>> > language is always a good thing. It will instill a comfort level with >>> > newer >>> > users and help to attract more users to the cause. >>> > * Unofficial communities should not post their own "Official >>> > Announcements" however should be welcomed to re-share content (translated) >>> > linking back to the official post. >>> > >>> > TL:DR - I personally feel that this should exist as a unofficial >>> > group, this would require a modification to the logo (and I have some >>> > ideas if you wish). I am astonished that you managed to gain 15 >>> > users so fast and this shows that there is clearly a need for such a >>> > group. Localized groups are a great thing however this would be >>> > very difficult for the Ubuntu GNOME social media team to moderate as we do >>> > not have speakers in every language that we do users. >>> > >>> > Thoughts? >>> > >>> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Ali/amjjawad <amjja...@gnome.org >>> > <mailto:amjja...@gnome.org>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Carlos Vinícius Ferrer >>> > <carlosvfer...@gmail.com <mailto:carlosvfer...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Good evening, folks. >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Carlos, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I came here to inform you that today I created the Facebook >>> > group called 'Ubuntu GNOME Brasil' with the intention of exchanging >>> > experiences with other Brazilian Ubuntu GNOME users and >>> > also for disclosure, marketing and recruiting new volunteers. >>> > >>> > Within hours, we are already the mark of 15 people in the >>> > group. >>> > >>> > This is the link: >>> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/288751181335120/ >>> > >>> > If you have any suggestions of how to run the group, please >>> > write here. >>> > >>> > >>> > While I sure do know this came from pure and good intention to >>> > help us grow bigger worldwide, my one and only concern is how these >>> > sites/channels will be administrated? >>> > >>> > Our official channels are: >>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs >>> > >>> > Any other channel that is not listed under: >>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs >>> > >>> > IMHO, we can't 'yet' call it official or belong to us. Thus, >>> > using any banner or logo that belongs to Ubuntu GNOME and then of course >>> > Canonical might not be the wise move. >>> > >>> > But, this is unexpected move. When you ask people to help >>> > translating your document into their native language, they would think of >>> > creating such group which I totally understand and appreciate >>> > of course. >>> > >>> > I think, we need some guidelines in this regard. Such efforts >>> > must be (IMHO) under the official LoCo Team of Ubuntu on that country. >>> > >>> > Let's see what Keith and others have in mind about this and >>> > maybe we need a quick meeting OR a discussion over here because I'm sure >>> > more will come soon (similar groups). >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thank you, guys. >>> > >>> > >>> > Thank you very much! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > *Carlos Vinícius Ferrer Costa* >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list >>> > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com >>> > <mailto:Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com> >>> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Best Regards, >>> > Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>> > *Remember: *"All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>> > >>> > Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage >>> > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage> >>> > http://torios.org - StartUbuntu >>> > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu> - http://amjjawad.net >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms >>> > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-comms> >>> > Post to : ubuntugnome-co...@lists.launchpad.net >>> > <mailto:ubuntugnome-co...@lists.launchpad.net> >>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms >>> > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-comms> >>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Keith I Myers >>> > http://http://KMyers.me >>> > +Keith I Myers <http://plus.kmyers.me/> >>> > Mobile : (305)-929-3475 <tel:%28305%29-929-3475> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list >>> Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> Ali/amjjawad >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >> >> Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage >> http://torios.org - StartUbuntu - http://amjjawad.net >> > > > -- > Carlos Vinícius Ferrer Costa > > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > -- http://www.iosifidis.gr http://linkedin.iosifidis.gr Great leaders don't tell you what to do...They show you how it's done. 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