Dear Friends, This is my last mail to this thread, which I would have otherwise forbidden from if not I have received a series of replies (+personally) to my earlier mail.
My PoV is that "Ubuntu Promotion" looks something like a commercially interested team rather than a Community interested team, which the Loco team already is. From your reply, which talked about Ubuntu Marketing, I am to presume that "Ubuntu India Promotions" will also be having a similar commercial interest ? If then, it makes sense to operate independently|parallel from the Loco Team, as we (the loco team) are mainly community and contribution focussed than commercial interests. If am not wrong, even Mark has kept the Marketing separate from the Community and I have been into lot of situation where people were ready to accept the Community part of Ubuntu but not the Marketing part. I would like to make it clear that am no way opposing your initiative or endeavor, but I personally stay away from anything involving commercial interests and politics (not valid in the current context, though). If your new team is focussed more on marketing aspects, then fine but /me gets excluded while there are/might be many members who have similar interests and will be ready to join you. But I feel it is necessary to keep the Community aspect separated from the Marketing aspect, to keep us going without troubles. To quote your earlier mail -- """I am just trying to bring all the Indian Ubenteros into a single platform.. I am not against newbies as I am helping them out to the fullest in the answer tracker... And By this i am encouraging more and more people to become ubenteros...I Know that loco teams are bringing ubuntu passionate people together.. Its just that I am thinking to model our LoCo team like ubuntu in launchpad...""" This is what I have been pointing out to be similar to the Loco Team and questioned the reason for a parallel track. I never meant you to be against something, nor I am opposing your endeavor. But this clashes with the interest of the Loco team and I prefer to oppose anything which splits or unnecessarily goes on a parallel track. This was the same reason I (and many others) opposed another Ubuntu-India web site which had been put up some time ago because the person thought he wasn't recognized by some one leading our team. Unnecessary parallel tracks only leads to confusion. When we are in our budding stages we need to have single source of information and resource and that is what he have been doing as the Loco team. You have also mentioned in your mail to me that """Now the quesstion arises Why should we have a marketing team seperately while the loco team is taking care of it?""" I have clearly stated my PoV for this above. """My view and answer for this question is Why Should we have different translation teams in Kannada,Tamil,Telugu and so on? The Indian loco council can do region/zone wise scouting for experts in a particular language by sending a mail or announcing it on the irc.. and then open up few wiki pages pertaining to the language and new members can be taken in by an interview by these experts thus getting to know their credentials (just as in the case of an Ubuntu CC meeting) and add them to thieir respective team pages with a link to each of members' Ubuntu/Ubuntu-India wiki.""" Language teams are different from Marketing teams. Language forms a part and parcel of the distribution and all the localization efforts happening in both downstream and upstream. Hence we need special groups to do the localization work in each language. Having a central localization team will be good for co-ordination but not for the real work to be done as it will leave to chaos as every one talks in the same place in their own languages. Please do not confuse different aspects that are entirely different. """Similarly I have set up a Promoters team to focus on marketing of ubuntu in India and thereby distributing the work load.. """ If it is specifically for marketing aspect of Ubuntu in India, I do not have any issues and it goes out of the scope of my concern. If you need any help, I can talk about this to Matthew Barker who is the Ubuntu Marketing guy for Asia. But please do not confuse between marketing and community aspects of Ubuntu. The Loco team is the Community team in India, and all other regional, language oriented teams are umbrella teams under it. Hope the ubuntu-tam team also agrees on this ;) Wish you all the best :) Note: Please don't mind quoting some personally mentioned reasons, I thought it is better to address it in public scope of the team rather than private scope as I happen to see a lot of newbiews into the team of late and better to let them know also. -- Parthan "Technofreak" [web] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net [mobile] MAA +919840209424 BLR +919845446647 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
