Richard
Thanks - most useful.

alan

Richard Weideman wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> We believe that the new format of the Education Edition as an add-on
> enhancement install on top of an Ubuntu install not only has the
> technical merits and advantages, but also now takes advantage of the
> "direct relationship with standard Ubuntu" rather than being a distinct
> distribution as previously.
> 
> Consider now when "pitching" to institutions that you can advocate
> "Ubuntu everywhere" in the education environment.
> 
> * Ubuntu server in the school or regional data centres
> * Ubuntu desktop in the operations areas, such as school
>   management, administration, financial & secretarial
>   divisions etc.
> 
> And
> 
> * Ubuntu + Ubuntu Education Edition in the classroom or on
>   personal educator/learner notebooks to arrive at the
>   Edubuntu education desktop
> 
> All of the options above are built on the same "engine", require the
> same support skills, and have the same commercial support & community
> base available.
> 
> This is a cohesive solution, and with the solid reputation and general
> public awareness of Ubuntu growing by leaps and bounds, we feel it is
> far more convincing and inspiring of confidence than presenting a "minor
> separate Education Linux Variant".
> 
> Regards
> Richard
> 
> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 17:37 +0100, alan c wrote:
>> Chris Kenyon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> [ubuntu-marketing] Edubuntu - loss of Live CDs in 8.04 Hardy?
>> >> From:
>> >> alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Date:
>> >> Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:20:29 +0100
>> >> To:
>> >> Ubuntu Marketing <ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have become aware that Edubuntu 8.04 no longer offers a 'Live CD'. I 
>> >> do know that it is a simple matter to install Ubuntu and then the 
>> >> Edubuntu desktop etc  and the add on CD now offered makes that easy too.
>> >>
>> >> However, from a 'Marketing' point of view, the loss of a demonstrable 
>> >> item such as a Live CD is rather sad.
>> >>
>> >>   
>> > Alan,
>> > 
>> > I appreciate that in a pure marketing sense that this is a set back.
>> > 
>> > I understand that ths decision was made in the consultation with the 
>> > Edubuntu community council and was driven by the following upsides:
>> > 
>> > * More language-packs on the add-on CD (critical outside the UK)
>> > * More educational software on the add-on CD
>> > * Better quality QA on the core install by not obliging us to run 
>> > testing on two seperate install images.
>> > 
>> > For many education uses, Ubuntu out of the box is an appropriate image 
>> > and the Live CD can be used for that.
>> > 
>> > As you point out there are costs associated with this decision and one 
>> > is the loss of the Edubuntu live CD experience.
>> >> Education, in UK anyway, is almost wall to wall microsoft, and I would 
>> >> like to remind the Edubuntu team (and others) how useful the Live CDs 
>> >> are for credible marketing.
>> >>   
>> > With regards to the use of FLOSS in UK schools we remain committed to 
>> > helping promote this through support for community work and advancing 
>> > the cause with organisations like BECTA. 
>> 
>> Chris
>> Thanks for the explanation - I sort of guessed it might be like that I 
>> suppose. I appreciate the practicality of the large benefits of the 
>> change. It is a marketing loss, however I can readjust my approach now 
>> I know the situation. It is easier to explain the change to others 
>> too. Part of the credibility is to be able to anticipate questions and 
>> give convincing answers.  :-)
>> 
>> Keep up the good work with BECTA! following the January BECTA report, 
>> IT coordinators from two different schools visited my table at the 
>> computer fair saying they had been given a 'directive' to investigate 
>> FOSS. They left with goodies which included a bunch of Ubuntu and 
>> Edubuntu CDs.


-- 
alan cocks
Kubuntu user#10391

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