On 7 November 2012 10:50, Anca Emanuel <anca.eman...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs > <dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> >> On 6 November 2012 18:57, Anca Emanuel <anca.eman...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I think you will need to CC this on all upstream maintainers. >> > >> >> No, don't spam people. Transitions is a distribution problem, not >> Debian's not Upstreams. > > When you work with "old" stable software, that is ok.
Out of 100 packages listed in the libav transition, only 11 have -0ubuntuX version number. Indicating that vast majority are stable releases from debian. Those that have -0ubuntuX only one is ~rc3 candidate tarball and the rest indicate that it's release version numbers. In ubuntu we work with upstreams to drive daily builds and increase test-suite coverage, but the actual software in the archive are released tarballs, not daily git snapshot tips. (this is the common case, naturally there are exceptions). > But if you work directly with upstream software you will need to inform > them. Sure, but please don't assume all upstream developers are active contributors to package maintenance in a distribution. >> >> Please note, transitions in Ubuntu are simply done collaboratively, we >> don't do "package lists per maintainer" as it is done in Debian. > > Sorry ? Did you hear about cloud ? git ? Testing every git commit ? Sure. But none of this actually happens in the raring-release archive, instead it happens outside of the release archive. Our goal is to have development release stable and installable at all points during development. That means that all unit-testing should happen _before_ landing into the archive, not after. Also see autopkgtest and the goals to run it before packages land in raring-release pocket. Regards, Dmitrijs. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Dmitrijs. >> >> ps. If there are patches written to fix bugs against new library >> abi/api do forward those upstream/debian _as appropriate_. But that is >> always the case regardless if it originated from a transition, or not. >> >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Reinhard Tartler <siret...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs >> >> <dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> >> > Please upload into PPA, upload rdepends and wait for them to rebuild. >> >> > Find problems together with other interested people. >> >> >> >> Look, ma: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/libav9-raring/+packages >> >> >> >> TODO list of affected packages is here: >> >> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libav.html >> >> >> >> Help is more than welcome, espcially with filing bugs and creating >> >> patches. Anyone interested in helping out, please mail me so that I >> >> can add you to ~motumedia for upload access, until that happens, >> >> please upload to your own PPA and we can then copy your fixed packages >> >> over. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> regards, >> >> Reinhard >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ubuntu-devel mailing list >> >> ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ubuntu-motu mailing list >> > Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu >> > > > -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list Ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu