Still waiting on a +1 from Daviey Thanks,
Thomas Mashos On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Thomas Mashos <[email protected]> wrote: > Mario, > > I know that mythbuntu-dev won't remove the red tape. It is a little > frustrating though that once my software makes it into the archive, I can no > longer write code and commit directly to the branch (since it is then owned > by mythbuntu-dev) > > I'll continue to get my packages into the archive. I was just a little > frustrated when I was doing that. > > > Thomas > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Mario Limonciello <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Thomas, >> >> I agree, it's easy to get discouraged when trying to get new software into >> the Ubuntu repositories because of how much human subjectivity is involved >> as it's reviewed before accepting into the archive. Please keep in mind >> becoming a developer with upload rights doesn't suddenly remove that red >> tape. Code review is a healthy procedure that I think should continue to >> exists. I think it would be good for you to help identify where some of >> those deficiencies that you encountered with the process for new packages >> were and specifically why the automated tools (revu, lintian, etc) weren't >> able to triage them ahead of time. The more that the automated tools grow, >> the less human subjectivity can play into review. >> >> PPAs are a useful tool, but not having red tape and peer review is a >> double edged sword. Uploading to a PPA that people use on their stable >> boxes has a lot more potential to break dozens of boxes. We've had these >> types of problems with the auto-builds mythtv branches in the past with >> botched patches, and need to keep it to a minimum. This is exactly why the >> Ubuntu SRU process exists. So I would like you to continue with any new >> software in the Ubuntu archive even if it ends up being troublesome to >> initially get accepted. >> >> I think that overall you've shown a lot of growth from the first Mythbuntu >> packages that you worked on to the most recent that i've reviewed >> (mythbuntu-bare) and seem to have a good concept of how package maintenance >> works with stuff actually in the Ubuntu archive during the development >> phases. You take feature freeze seriously and attempt to get all of your >> work done in time for the freeze. >> >> Right now I don't think any of the stuff specific to the Mythbuntu package >> set fits with Debian because it's all so tightly wrapped around MythTV which >> isn't yet in Debian. There is however an ongoing effort for MythTV >> inclusion in Debian. When that happens, I would like to see you explore >> moving the packages that you've written and maintain in Ubuntu into Debian >> as well. >> >> So as long as you can continue to work directly in the archive even for >> NEW packages, I think mythbuntu-dev is a good fit for you. >> >> Thanks, >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 13:38, Thomas Mashos <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Name: Thomas Mashos >>> Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/~tgm4883 >>> >>> Who I am: A Mythbuntu developer that apparently doesn't have access to >>> his own software. >>> >>> My Ubuntu Story: I got into Mythbuntu when it was being founded, which >>> was April 2007. At that point I didn't know much about creating software, >>> but was willing to help document things and triage bugs. Through the support >>> of Mario Limonciello and Daviey Walker, I am now able to contribute in more >>> of a development role. >>> >>> Areas of work: I'm the creator or mythbuntu-bare, mythbuntu-repos, and >>> mythbuntu-log-grabber. I've written documentation, triaged bugs, submitted >>> patches, reproduced issues, and assisted in distributing Mythbuntu. >>> >>> Things I could do better: I could submit software for inclusion into >>> Debian, rather that deal with attempting to get my software that was written >>> specifically for Mythbuntu into the Ubuntu archives. >>> >>> Plans for the future: To continue to patch my software that is already in >>> the archive and use PPA's for everything else. >>> >>> Examples of my work: See Mythbuntu-bare, mythbuntu-repos, >>> mythbuntu-log-grabber. >>> >>> What I like least in Ubuntu: The red tape required to get things into the >>> repositories. How there always seems to be one more hoop to jump through. An >>> attempt in making it easier for the Mythbuntu team to patch software that we >>> are responsible for has left me without the ability to commit anything to my >>> Mythbuntu bzr branches. >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mario Limonciello >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv >> > > > > -- > Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-mythtv mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mythtv
