Hey Tarek, maybe you can help me with some questions with yowsup: 1. what does status_dirty mean? 2. what does clientconfig_send do? I mean, I can read the code, but what does it result in? 3. Is there a way to get the current roster or list of subscriptions? 4. It seems that your presence is automatically published to everyone who has your number, right?
Best wishes, Matthias 2013/3/13 Alan Miller <[email protected]> > Dear Tarek > > Perhaps include the OTR libraries in your code ? > User can instigate an OTR session just like adium by pressing a button > so it should not matter about the server, its just xmpp and its only > text being sent. That would make a few people very happy. > > > On the bigger picture, the whole world is going XMPP, and going UNIFIED > communication, the whole UBUNTU messaging experience is meant to be UNIFIED. > Lets be honest here, now many IM or communications clients do we all have > on our phones ? I have 7 ! One day I want one. > > It would just be nice if we could find a generic way to get OTR/ZRTP in > there from day one without having to encourage all the different IM > developers to include it as default. > > I was thinking more like how a proxy works, but built in to ubuntu as a > core function rather than leave it to the individual IM application builder > to implement encryption, and then have that ubuntu core software try and > implement an OTR session when it could (socialist millionaire protocol > perhaps). > > At least Ubuntu to Ubuntu users by default would have a basic ability to > encrypt using OTR, and not be limited to any particular IM client. > Whatapp would only see text going through. I already encrypt stuff and > send it via whatsapp > > Putting stuff at layer 3 can be done but its rather complex, so a proxy > like approach may be more practical. > > > > Kind Regards > AGM > > On 14 Mar, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Tarek Galal <[email protected]> wrote: > > For WhatsApp, there is no way to identify what phone the other side is > using, and if there is, most likely WhatsApp will immediately use it to > block clients identified as Ubuntu phones > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Alan Miller <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Gentlemen >> What do you think the chances are of implementing a secured version of >> this using OTR or ZRTP ? >> >> I am in favour of putting OTR or ZRTP encryption at the lower parts of >> the stack and then bring up the fingerprints/hashes options into the phone >> UI, say a key icon beside the battery icon, the usual swipe down gives the >> encryption options. >> This would allow for opportunistic encryption peer to peer when two >> Ubuntu phones knew of each other, regardless of what service was used and >> would stay silent when the other client was not an ubuntu. >> >> An equivalent generic messaging client that can support whatsapp (with >> PTT voice messages etc) in Ubuntu would be spectacularly useful. >> (especially if it could encrypt). >> >> What do you think the chances are of this being a reality ? >> >> Thanks >> Kind Regards >> AGM >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> COMMERCIAL CONFIDENTIAL >> Alan Miller >> +852 91664961 >> Skype: agmiller >> >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Silent Circle (SECURE): >> [email protected] >> +1 972 468 0310 >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Tarek Galal <[email protected]> >> *Subject: **Re: [Ubuntu-phone] About WhatsApp implementation for Ubuntu >> phone* >> *Date: *14 March, 2013 1:34:24 AM HKT >> *To: *Matthias Gehre <[email protected]> >> *Cc: *"[email protected]" < >> [email protected]> >> >> Yeah well telepathy itself could be supporting everything, but I guess it >> would be Ubuntu's telepathy client limitations, right? I haven't tried it, >> but I mean I haven't seen a telepathy client (yet) which displays delivery >> receipts (even when telepathy itself supports it). Same case for displaying >> contacts' "last seen at" and group icons. And these are only a few thing on >> top of my head. Also what about Emoji support? I released BB10 client like >> 4 days ago and already getting a lot of complaints for not supporting Emoji. >> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Matthias Gehre <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> To clarify: ubuntu phone messaging menu/empaty/ KDE telepathy etc, can >>> already be used, but they only show the "content" field of the message. >>> >>> >>> 2013/3/13 Matthias Gehre <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Hi Tarek, >>>> >>>> I'm Matthias, the developer of whosthere, a whatsapp client for ubuntu >>>> / ubuntu phone. It's implemented as a telepathy service (using yowsp). >>>> There shouldn't be any features missing by using telepathy, everything >>>> is/can be wrapped into telepathy. (Receipts are supported natively by >>>> telepathy, image, location and so on are implemented as extended messages >>>> parameters). >>>> For example, a location is send as >>>> content-type=plain/text >>>> content= "location: \"" << name << "\" at >>>> https://maps.google.com/maps?q="; << latitude << "," << longitude; >>>> x-whosthere-latitude = latitude >>>> x-whosthere-longitude = longitude >>>> >>>> I also wrote a small GUI (on QML2, because QML1 is not supported on >>>> ubuntu touch), which is necessary for telepathy account creation. >>>> And also supports all those x-whosthere-* fields. >>>> But in the long run the ubuntu phone messaging menu on the >>>> phone/empaty/ KDE telepathy etc, may be better GUIs for actual >>>> conversations (when x-whosthere-* can be integrated into the telepathy >>>> spec) >>>> >>>> The GUI is at https://github.com/mgehre/whosthere >>>> The telepathy-cm is at https://github.com/mgehre/telepathy-whosthere >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Matthias >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/3/13 Tarek Galal <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> My name is Tarek, I'm author of Yowsup, and WhatsApp clients on N9 and >>>>> BB10 (Wazapp and OpenWhatsapp). It's great to see you guys already working >>>>> on a client for Ubuntu phone, which happens to be also based on Yowsup. I >>>>> don't know if you are aiming for a standalone UI, or only a telepathy >>>>> plugin. Although a telepathy plugin would integrate nicely with the >>>>> system, >>>>> I think it would however force dropping some main features in WhatsApp, >>>>> for >>>>> instance, display of receipts for sent and delivered messages. And that's >>>>> why I went for a standalone UI on meego/harmattan even though it ships >>>>> with >>>>> telepathy. Perhaps a combination of both, a plugin, and a UI could work >>>>> together? Anyway, I'm writing to you, in case you need any help using the >>>>> library or writing a UI. If you're going for a complete UI, Wazapp is >>>>> already in QML, and I can port it to use Ubuntu Components. So please let >>>>> me know. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Tarek >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Tarek Galal >> http://jadb.wordpress.com >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Tarek Galal > http://jadb.wordpress.com > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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