To sum up my understanding of this discussion (please correct me where I'm wrong):
1. Everything inhereted by Debian will be installable without registration/login, but only on a desktop. 2. Some additions (mainly drivers and Ubuntu specific services) by Ubuntu/Canonical will also be installable without beeing logged in. 3. Everything which is published not by "1." or "2." I'll have to login to "Ubuntu One" to access/download/use it. 3.1. Click-Apss (regardless of being freeware/opensource/paid) are an example for "3." 3.2. Ubuntu One is a service hosted by Canonical. 3.3. Ubuntu One is just an account/"single sign on service" which grants me access to some services (like "installing paid/free apps") 4. I'll not be able to install software on my phone (as a enduser) without beeing logged into / registered at "Ubuntu One" My questions under the assumptions the above understanding is right: Is this design (you have to have an "Ubuntu One" account to extend your smartphone capabilities) an agreed item/behavior? Or is this just "v0" of click/ubuntu-touch? In one Q&A sessions by Jono Bacon, he stated that you will _probably_ not to be logged in to access free apps. Is this information outdated? Am 14.10.2013 22:14, schrieb Dave Morley: > On 14/10/13 21:05, Nicolas Delvaux wrote: >> Le 14/10/2013 21:21, Dave Morley a écrit : >>> On 14/10/13 18:59, Nicolas Delvaux wrote: >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I'm enjoying Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus4 so far, except for one >>>> detail. I noticed that it is required to be connected to an >>>> Ubuntu-One account in order to be able to install any app. >>>> >>>> Is this a bug or a feature? >>>> >>>> I understand that it could be needed to buy apps. But for the >>>> free ones I don't see why it should be a requirement (and it adds >>>> one more privacy concern). >>>> >>>> Thank you for your work. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Nicolas >>>> >>> >>> So Ubuntu SSO (the general Ubuntu Login for all of ubuntu websites >>> wiki etc) got rebranded Ubuntu One Login. This is just a login >>> mechanism that allows you access to the current applications and >>> will allow you to purchase apps in the future. It is basically the >>> same login you would of used in Software-center to obtain for >>> purchase apps in the past. >> >> I think this is understandable in this use case. Paid apps "licences" >> have to be centralized and associated to an unique user. >> >> But today, on the desktop, I can still install Stellarium from the >> software center without being logged-in. >> Though I have to sign-in if I want to re-install some Humble Indie >> Bundle games. >> >> The point is that, if I'm not mistaken, Touch does not currently bring >> any feature that the desktop doesn't already have (regarding >> installing apps). >> The Ubuntu-One account is optional on the desktop, and I fail to see a >> technical reason to explain why it is not possible to do the same on >> the phone. >> Can someone enlighten me here? >> >> If this is motivated only by commercial reasons, it would be better to >> say it officially I think. >> >>> Yes it is deliberate. >>> >>> No it won't go away. >> >> Thank you for being clear. >> Does this mean that this requirement will also come to the desktop >> when the convergence goal will be reached? >> >> >>> Final if you get a new ubuntu phone it will hopefully be able to do >>> what google does with android and set you up with all the apps you >>> have purchased/installed. >> >> AFAIK it is already possible on the desktop (the "Sync Between >> Computers" menu item). And it still allows the software center to be >> used without an Ubuntu One account. >> >> Thank you for your answer Dave! >> >> Nicolas >> > > Right so these applications act the same way as a $0 for purchase app > works, it's still free but you need access to get the app. Stellarium > is a repo application, repo apps just need you to have the repostitory > enabled to install them (i.e. no need for access). With Ubuntu touch > there is no repo so you have to login to gain a subscription to the > application in order to install it. > > Yes on a converged device to gain access to the click apps you will need > to login. However as I understand the desktop will be slightly > different in that you can still access the standard repos. > > > > > -- kind regards Simon
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