On Mon, 2016-11-07 at 16:09 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Even if Linux (or FreeBSD) is OpenSource, you need some hardware > vendor > and firmare for the chips, for example the modem and wifi, etc.
That hardware will be produced anyway, and it will likely stay closed source proprietary firmware, unless other venues for those chips result in the drivers and firmware being opened up. Hopefully the popularity of Ubuntu Core on the IoT side will help drive that. > In 2008 I started to use the first time Linux on a phone, the > Openmoko > Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Unless you were specifically using iOS, Windows CE/Mobile, or Symbian before, there's a very good chance you were already "using Linux" on your phone anyway. Many previous Java phones and such were built on embedded Linux platforms. > The BQ E4.5 and M10 (I own both) was a massive step forward i the > sense > of having something useable and not only hackable. For any device where CyanogenMod can exist, it should theoretically be feasible to create a ported Ubuntu image to run on said device. Whether there are people who want to build and maintain such images is a separate question, though, and unrelated to whether or not there are new retail phones getting built with Ubuntu pre-installed. I think that's the point that was being made.
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