Hi Peter, I believe that a system similar to what you're asking for is already under development in the form of the messaging framework:
https://code.launchpad.net/messaging-framework I think there are similar plans for VoIP as well. Pretty much everyone's on holiday now but if you give me (Elleo) a ping on IRC in the new year I can try to put you in touch with the folks working on so you can share your thoughts on it with them. Cheers, Mike On Sat, 2016-12-24 at 09:05 +0100, Peter Bittner wrote: > I think it takes more than "fixing bugs" to make a successful phone > platform. I've proposed a solution to a problem that a lot of people > face, presumably, today in a world of hectic chatting and information > exchange [1]. Sadly, not a single comment from a single Canonical > employee on it, even though it has a few votes, so there is general > interest. > > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtubuntu/+bug/1627747 > > It feels like Canonical has gone back to do what they love to do: > Make > good user experience for an operating system. A system that boots up > faster than any Linux before and has a desktop manager that feels > good, because it has elements borrowed from OS X and other nice > goodies. This is just not the same as "we do something that no-one > has > done before". It's probably a people problem: Canonical can do things > well only where they have proven they're good at for years. > > The problem I see with "the community should do the rest" is that > coming up with such a central decision of building an infrastructure > for communication exchange (as in my proposal) is a big and risky > endeavor: All the effort you put in would be for nothing with a > Canonical saying "we're not interested" or a Canonical not responding > at all. Felipe De La Puente has written in another thread [2] that > communication plugins should build on Telepathy. But clearly, > Canonical should take the lead, make implementing plugins > super-straightforward and promote it, so larger companies listen up. > Make it a hype. Just like they do for Snappy. > > [2] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg22870.html > > I really want Ubuntu Touch, or Personal - or whatever. > > I used to show off my bq Aquaris E5 to everyone, but I figured it was > limiting me too much in getting my daily endeavors done. Just a Gmail > web app and and finally a working calendar is just not enough. If > there were "convergence" in the sense of "my browser shares its > settings, bookmarks, passwords, ... with my desktop" and an easy, > built-in way of setting up file synchronization with my desktop > machine that would be something to help me feel being helped in > getting my business done. > > Now I have an ugly, pretty slow Android system on my bq Anquaris E5 > that does all the things that help me feel connected (I need to use > Slack, not Telegram, I have to use that horribly distracting WhatsApp > even though I hate it as hell, and it's friggin' helpful to use a > working video telephony on my phone, damn!, with whatever platform - > Hangouts, Viber, Skype, Slack, you name it). The Android UI is > horrible, ugly, and quite slow. And apps are crap, many of them > bloated with ads. It makes my bq feel more a "plastic device" than it > was with Ubuntu. I really really do NOT want Ubuntu to be such a > platform, with a shedload of apps you constantly have to switch from > and to, back and forth. Apps are stupid, get over it. > > I'm checking regularly on the Ubuntu Phone mailing list if there is > some progress that makes me confident to make the switch back, but > nothing. Not even a new phone on the horizon, no vision any more, all > faded away. Just advertising for "please repackage your webapps with > Snappy". Oh great, I feel so empowered (yawn). Canonical really makes > me sad. > > Peter > > > 2016-11-19 14:09 GMT+01:00 Felipe De La Puente <fdelapue...@gmail.com > >: > > > > Hi, > > > > I would say that the currently expected way to achieve this is by > > implementing telepathy plugins, and may be in the future the > > platform could > > be opened to be user configurable with respect of which plugins it > > uses for > > different types of communication (text, voice, video). Of course > > this allows > > for multiple alternatives for each communication type, setting > > priorities > > and so on. > > > > Right now, the standard telephony voice data flows through the > > ofono plugin > > of telepathy. > > 2016-12-16 6:50 GMT+01:00 mark <j.m.hol...@me.com>: > > > > Hi > > > > All the narrative surrounding convergence has been about one code > > for all > > devices: so developments in one area supposedly improves the > > experience in > > all areas. I realize that convergence hasn't quite happened yet, > > and that so > > far, seemingly Touch has been doing its own thing, but surely, > > tantalizingly, we're on the cusp of it with core and snaps: i.e. > > there's > > going to be a new protocol for the phone (desktop etc) soon. But > > more than > > that: so long as Canonical continue with convergence, the phone > > (and > > everything else) will always be part of it. > > > > i.m.o. Bryan Lunduke is an agent provocoteur: all he wanted last > > Christmas > > was a truly Linux tablet, which he thought he'd never see. Well, > > that > > arrived literally a few weeks after his post in the form of the > > M10. :/ > > > > f.w.i.w My predictions for Ubuntu phone in 2016: Core and Snaps. > > New devices > > from OEMs. Perhaps a more easily portable system. And maybe other > > flavours > > of UT. > > > > > > m > > > > > > On 15/12/16 12:38, advocatux wrote: > > > > Dear Ubuntu Developers & Supporters, first of all thank you for > > your work. > > Also Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year. > > > > I do think this is the perfect time to talk about Ubuntu Phone (UP) > > and its > > next future. > > > > Mark Suttleworth said in May UP is not in the main focus, and that > > his daily > > phone is not UP [0], but I don't interpreted it as far as Bryan > > Lunduke > > (Social Media Marketing Manager of SUSE) does, when talking about > > his 2016 > > predictions [1]: > > > > "(Prediction for 2016) Canonical will pull away from phones. > > > > Canonical/Ubuntu pulling away from the phone market? This is a hard > > one to > > measure. > > > > Wait. No, it’s not. > > > > The last press release from Canonical that was phone-related was > > back in > > April. And the main press page for Canonical doesn’t list a single > > thing > > about phones. The last several announcements from Canonical have > > been very > > enterprise-centric. Even in the lead up to the holiday shopping > > season, not > > a peep about phones. > > > > Nailed it. Canonical pulled away from phones during 2016 in order > > to focus > > on enterprise functionality." > > > > > > Personally, I simply do think is just a question of time, and I > > have great > > faith in the UP project. > > > > So Dear Devs, what's the plan for 2017? How can we help to speed up > > Ubuntu > > Phone development? What can we do to get UP to play in the "First > > Division"? > > > > Regards. > > > > -- > > advocatux > > > > > > [0] > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/mark-shuttle-worth-talks-ubuntu- > > phone-snappy > > > > [1] > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/3145664/linux/2016-linux-predic > > tions-which-ones-came-true.html -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp