On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:14:27PM +1200, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: > On Sat, 27 May 2023 at 04:16, Steve Langasek <steve.langa...@ubuntu.com> > wrote:
> > Thanks for raising this valid concern. > > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 12:47:23PM +1200, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: > > > Debian bookworm is scheduled to be released on June 10. Debian Import > > > Freeze is currently scheduled for about six weeks later, on August 17. Do > > > we want to shut off debian imports early, basically as soon as bookworm > > > releases, to avoid having all our work overwhelmed by a bunch of > > > transitions in Debian? > > In addition to the counterpoints raised by Jeremy and Seb, I'd point out > > that moving up the Debian import freeze would also be an obstacle to > > landing > > the 64-bit time_t migration this cycle, which I think we definitely want to > > do in 23.10, not in 24.04. > Ah we are going to try that for 24.04 are we? Somehow I had the feeling we > were going to be more cautious. But I think it's probably a good idea to > get it over with. Well, the longer we spend on it, the more time we're going to have to spend re-analyzing libraries in the archive to identify ABI breaks as things drift. And my proposal in Debian has been to kick this off when trixie opens. So I do think it's better for us to move forward. We definitely don't want our dpkg-buildflags to differ from Debian's on this for any significant amount of time. > Do you think the necessary people are convinced on the Debian side to land > this early in trixie or is there still more arguing to be done there? We still don't have a definitive agreement on what to do with i386, but I think that will shake out once we have a dpkg-buildflags implementation to discuss. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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