Hi Erich, Before I would be willing to sign off with my Release Team hat on the addition of another variant image, I would need some clarification about what exactly the intent is here.
Xubuntu made the case for a minimal ISO because Xubuntu itself targets systems with lower specs; having a minimal image that is targeting particularly low-end systems that might otherwise not be supported is a tangible goal. (The initial Xubuntu minimal images weighed in at 1.8GiB - fits on a 2GB USB stick, is potentially netbootable with the mini.iso on a system with less memory than others, etc.) Meanwhile, the Ubuntu Studio ISO, at 6.8GiB, is the largest flavor image that we ship. It should be clear what niche a "minimal" version of an Ubuntu Studio ISO is expected to fill before we commit the resources to building and hosting it. $ sudo apt install --install-recommends ubuntustudio-desktop-core [...] Space needed: 3755 MB / 72.2 GB available Continue? [Y/n] ^C $ sudo apt install --install-recommends ubuntustudio-desktop [...] Space needed: 8417 MB / 72.0 GB available Continue? [Y/n] ^C $ It's not straightforward to translate these numbers into ISO sizes, but while it makes sense to have multiple install profiles on a given ISO, having a complete second ISO only makes sense if reducing the resources needed by the installer itself (download size? size of install media? boot speed? minimum memory requirements?) are going to make installing accessible to users that it wouldn't otherwise be. In particular, my understanding is that, without any of the applications pulled in from the main desktop metapackage (and the domain metapackages - photography, etc), the ubuntustudio minimal desktop is effectively just a KDE desktop. And to get any of the actual applications (the real "Ubuntu Studio-ness") after installing from an Ubuntu Studio minimal image would require an apt install of them from over the network. So what advantage would an Ubuntu Studio minimal image give (for the user; for the broader Ubuntu ecosystem) over installing from a Kubuntu image and then 'apt install ubuntustudio-desktop-core ubuntustudio-audio kubuntu-desktop_'? On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 10:56:26AM -0700, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > Hi TB and Release Team! > > Much like Xubuntu has done, and to appease our community for an oft-requested > feature, for 24.10 we would like to add a minimal .iso image. > > I have already submitted a merge proposal at > https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/469503 > for a minimal installation, which I believe would be a first step towards > this. Once we are past this, I believe it's simply a matter of adding the > following lines, but I'm pretty sure it simply requires the following lines > to be added at this point: > > case ${SUBPROJECT:-} in > minimal) > HAS_STANDARD=no > ;; > esac > > And also add the SUBPROJECT in ubuntu-cdimage. > > Of course, I could be wrong, but anybody on the release team can advise since > I don't really mess with this stuff very often. > > As I understand it, this doesn't need to go through the entire new flavor > process since as the precedent set when Xubuntu added their minimal .iso > image. > > Once Ubuntu Studio has theirs, Edubuntu *may* be request adding one as well > as we have had some requests for this and a case made from the Educational > community. > > Thanks so much! > Erich > > -- > Erich Eickmeyer > Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio > Technical Lead - Edubuntu > > > -- > Ubuntu-release mailing list > Ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org
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