@Mark: Thanks for these clarifications. So as far as I understand,
simplestreams is conceptually way above the juju packaging, as it just
selects which built Ubuntu cloud image to fetch and install. So this
doesn't seem related to the question of how to build and package juju
itself.

These Ubuntu cloud images still need to be built somehow. We usually
build all our images (desktop, server, cloud, phone) right our of our
Ubuntu archive, so it seems for these this isn't the case as the juju
bits of these images are pulled down separately from simplestreams.
That's what I (and Adam, Jamie, etc.) object to. It should just use the
binary packages instead. However, I realize that this is a much smaller
impact than having to download the juju client from simplestreams
locally (which is still the case for juju-local though).

I have no official saying in that matter as I left the Mir/release teams
some time ago, but if we can get away with not having to officially
support these golang-go builds and golang-go itself with its current
limitations, I'm all for that :-)

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