Bryan,

Have a good news.  I installed Jaunt (9.04) on a new VM and I could  
push the Large size files without any issues over IPv6.

So it looks like OS/ Kernl level issue.

I can use the new machine (Jaunt) and can push to both Hardy and  
Jaunt machines.

At least it solved one issue, but we may need to re-test our product  
with new OS.

Thanks
Prasad

On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Prasad Tadi wrote:

>
> Bryan,
>
> Thanks for the details....
>
> Here is some more data following your mail.
> The problem still persists...
>
>
> However, when I run the command on local link (local machine's) , It
> completes and not even a single trace on tshark ip6 -i eth1
>
> But when I traced on  " lo",  it did show the data.
>
> cru...@cc-branch:~/newcc/projects/branch-build/dt-RelEng$ scp
> desktone.tar [fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc%eth1]:/tmp/x.tar
> cru...@fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc%eth1's password:
> desktone.tar
>                                   100%   71MB  35.3MB/s   00:02
> cru...@cc-branch:~/newcc/projects/branch-build/dt-RelEng$
>
> # tshark ip6 -i lo
> <SNIP>
>
>   8.381329 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc SSHv2
> Encrypted response packet len=48
>    8.381401 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc
> SSHv2 Encrypted request packet len=32
>    8.382301 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc
> SSHv2 Encrypted response packet len=128
>    8.383901 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc
> SSHv2 Encrypted request packet len=32
>    8.383932 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc TCP
> 42214 > ssh [FIN, ACK] Seq=74203897 Ack=30225 Win=39040 Len=0
> TSV=7656054 TSER=7656054
>    8.419376 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc TCP
> ssh > 42214 [ACK] Seq=30225 Ack=74203898 Win=852224 Len=0 TSV=7656058
> TSER=7656054
>    8.469483 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc TCP
> ssh > 42214 [FIN, ACK] Seq=30225 Ack=74203898 Win=852224 Len=0
> TSV=7656063 TSER=7656054
>    8.469504 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:1ddc TCP
> 42214 > ssh [ACK] Seq=74203898 Ack=30226 Win=39040 Len=0 TSV=7656063
> TSER=7656063
>
> So I think though the Document suggests that it should use its own,
> the OS /APP is intelligent to route the packets through LOOP BACK  
> (lo).
>
>
> Now the data while transferring to next node.....
>
> I tried both eth1 and eth0.
>
> First the SCP command
> ru...@cc-branch:~/newcc/projects/branch-build/dt-RelEng$ scp
> desktone.tar [fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c%eth0]:/tmp/x.tar
> cru...@fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c%eth0's password:
> desktone.tar
>                                     2% 2112KB   2.1MB/s   00:33 ETA
> desktone.tar
>                                     2% 2112KB   1.7MB/s   00:41 ETA
> desktone.tar
>                                     2% 2112KB   1.5MB/s   00:45 ETA
> desktone.tar
>                                     2% 2112KB   1.2MB/s - stalled -
> desktone.tar
>                                     2% 2112KB   1.1MB/s - stalled -
> desktone.tar
>                                     3% 2208KB 918.8KB/s   01:16 ETA
> desktone.tar
>                                     3% 2208KB 744.2KB/s   01:34
> etacru...@cc-branch:~/newcc/projects/branch-build/dt-RelEng$
>
> I killed after some time....
>
>
> tshark ip6 output.... on the originator.... No Errors
>
> <SNIP>
> 16.447595 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c SSHv2
> Encrypted request packet len=2856
>   16.657429 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   16.657777 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=158913 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934229
> TSER=7554125
>   16.657806 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 Encrypted request packet len=2856
>   16.867469 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   16.867773 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=160341 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934250
> TSER=7554146
>   16.867797 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 Encrypted request packet len=2856
>   17.077691 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.078810 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=161769 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.078837 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.078843 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079060 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=163197 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.079071 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079075 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=164625 Win=62720 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.079086 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079330 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=166053 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.079340 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079345 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=167481 Win=62720 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.079353 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079566 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=170337 Win=62720 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.079572 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079577 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079581 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.079788 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=173193 Win=62720 Len=0 TSV=78934271
> TSER=7554167
>   17.111825 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=174621 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934275
> TSER=7554167
>   17.111849 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.151649 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=176049 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934279
> TSER=7554170
>   17.151673 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c
> SSHv2 [TCP Retransmission] Encrypted request packet len=1428
>   17.155241 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=177478 Win=64128 Len=0 TSV=78934279
> TSER=7554174
>   17.155521 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 TCP
> ssh > 53692 [FIN, ACK] Seq=2209 Ack=177478 Win=64128 Len=0
> TSV=78934279 TSER=7554174
>   17.155534 fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:5c00 -> fe80::250:56ff:fe8d:403c TCP
> 53692 > ssh [ACK] Seq=177478 Ack=2210 Win=10496 Len=0 TSV=7554174
> TSER=78934279
> 335 packets captured
> r...@cc-branch:~#
>
> Thanks
> Prasad
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Bryan McLellan wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Prasad Tadi <pt...@roshitech.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I am not really an expert, but I think the "Local link" may use
>>> Loop back
>>>
>>> Link-local is the fe80 addresses that refer to devices on a
>>> particular data link, such as a single Ethernet network, or a
>>> point-to-point serial connection.  If you're using your own link-
>>> local address, then yes, that traffic will - I believe - traverse
>>> the loopback interface.
>>
>> This is not correct. If you read the link I provided earlier it  
>> starts
>> with "All interfaces have an associated link-local address". Loopback
>> is it's own interface (lo) and is independent of your ethN  
>> interfaces.
>> The loopback interface also has it's own inet6 address (ifconfig  
>> lo0 |
>> grep inet6) in the specified ipv6 loopback address range.
>>
>>> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:56:b5:52:c1
>>>          inet6 addr: fdf8:c879:493e:1:250:56ff:feb5:52c1/64
>>> Scope:Global
>>>          inet6 addr: fe80::250:56ff:feb5:52c1/64 Scope:Link
>>
>> The second address, that starts with fe80::, and additionally says
>> "Scope: Link" is the "Link Local" address. This is because this
>> address is for the local link only.
>>
>> Try copying between two hosts using these address with Scope:Link to
>> rule out any addressing problems. Because these are local addresses,
>> you may need to specify the interface you want scp to use by adding
>> '%interface' to the end of the address, such as:
>>
>> scp -6 desktone.tar [fdf8:c879:493e:1:250:56ff:feb5:52c1%eth1]:/tmp
>>
>> It may be helpful to run 'sudo tshark ip6' on the originating host
>> while copying the file to look for any network errors.
>>
>> -- 
>> SCP over IPv6 address is very Slow. Takes Hours
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/352841
>> You received this bug notification because you are a direct  
>> subscriber
>> of the bug.
>>
>> Status in “openssh” source package in Ubuntu: New
>>
>> Bug description:
>> Binary package hint: openssh-server
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using Ubutu Hardy release 8.04 and openssh 4.7P1
>>
>>
>> lsb_release -a
>> No LSB modules are available.
>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
>> Release:        8.04
>> Codename:       hardy
>> r...@htaf1:~#
>> OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007
>>
>>
>> When I copy a 50+ MB file from one system to another  Ubuntu
>>
>> Using IPv4 address  it took just less than 3 sec.
>> Same thing over IPv6 took more than an hour ( 1 Hr and 20 Min)
>>
>> I copied the file using local IPv6 address. It ran fine. May be it
>> is using loop back, instead of real IPv6 address
>>
>>
>> When I initiate the same from a free BSD box to BSD It took less
>> than 3 sec on both Ipv4 and IPv6.
>> I can also copy from Ubuntu to a FreeBSD box faster both Ipv4 and
>> IPv6 addreses.
>>
>> I just can't copy the same from a Ubutu to Ubutu or other machines
>> to Ubuntu over IPv6 address.
>>
>> It is very critical for our product :-(
>>
>> I even tried getting the latest OpenSSH package from openssh.org
>> and compiled that module and ran that sshd.
>> Still no use. Same old behaviour.
>>
>> It starts negotiating at 1.5 Mb/ sec and slowly drops to few KB /
>> sec and stalls the copy process during the time.
>>
>> Any updates or known issues.
>>
>> thanks in advance for your information on this issue.
>
> ====== Together we can build a better process =======
> Prasad Tadi
> pt...@roshitech.com
> http://www.roshitech.com
> Fax: (270) 568-6295
> cell: 603-809-7186
>
> -- 
> SCP over IPv6 address is very Slow. Takes Hours
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/352841
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “openssh” source package in Ubuntu: New
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: openssh-server
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using Ubutu Hardy release 8.04 and openssh 4.7P1
>
>
> lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
> Release:        8.04
> Codename:       hardy
> r...@htaf1:~#
> OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007
>
>
> When I copy a 50+ MB file from one system to another  Ubuntu
>
> Using IPv4 address  it took just less than 3 sec.
> Same thing over IPv6 took more than an hour ( 1 Hr and 20 Min)
>
> I copied the file using local IPv6 address. It ran fine. May be it  
> is using loop back, instead of real IPv6 address
>
>
> When I initiate the same from a free BSD box to BSD It took less  
> than 3 sec on both Ipv4 and IPv6.
> I can also copy from Ubuntu to a FreeBSD box faster both Ipv4 and  
> IPv6 addreses.
>
> I just can't copy the same from a Ubutu to Ubutu or other machines  
> to Ubuntu over IPv6 address.
>
> It is very critical for our product :-(
>
> I even tried getting the latest OpenSSH package from openssh.org  
> and compiled that module and ran that sshd.
> Still no use. Same old behaviour.
>
> It starts negotiating at 1.5 Mb/ sec and slowly drops to few KB /  
> sec and stalls the copy process during the time.
>
> Any updates or known issues.
>
> thanks in advance for your information on this issue.

====== Together we can build a better process =======
Prasad Tadi
pt...@roshitech.com
http://www.roshitech.com
Fax: (270) 568-6295
cell: 603-809-7186

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