+1 2011/4/6, Pandu Poluan <pa...@poluan.info>: > A hearty, resounding, reverberating "YES, PLEASE!! I want to see my > server's booting process!!!" > > Rgds, > > > On 2011-04-06, Sander Smeenk <ssme...@freshdot.net> wrote: >> Quoting Louis RUPPERT (lrupp...@louruppert.com): >> >>> They are for me. In the rare instance of a hardware or boot failure, I >>> like to be able to watch the process happen, and to be able to have a >>> working console to login to. Anything that requires bootsplash and >>> upstart potentially interferes with that. I don't care if my server >>> looks pretty when it's booting. I do care that I can see at what point >>> in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred. >> >> I do so much agree with this. I recently subscribed here to discuss >> exactly these concerns with Ubuntu's server edition. >> >> These things really, really bug me in my work with Ubuntu Server: >> >> * GRUB's default HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true >> * GRUB's default "graphical console" >> * Plymouth splashscreens (even textbased ones!) >> * Upstart hiding console-output >> >> I am fully aware of the fact that this is 'open source' and i can 'use >> the source, Luke!'. That's exactly what i do after installing a server: >> disable most of the above listed "features". >> >> What bugs me is the sheer illogical choices that have been made for >> Ubuntu Server. These things are perfect for Ubuntu Desktop installs as >> my mom doesn't need to see the kernel boot, but for a server, these >> messages are of essential value to debugging (boot)problems. A situation >> i face on a weekly basis hosting/maintaining >300 Ubuntu servers. >> >> As Louis so neatly wrote down: >> >> | "I like to be able to watch the process happen. [ .. ] I don't care if >> | my server looks pretty when it's booting. I do care that I can see at >> | what point in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred." >> >> +1 >> >> With regards, >> -Sander. >> -- >> | Don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon. >> | 4096R/20CC6CD2 - 6D40 1A20 B9AA 87D4 84C7 FBD6 F3A9 9442 20CC 6CD2 >> >> -- >> ubuntu-server mailing list >> ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server >> More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam >> > > > -- > -- > Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer > My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/ > > -- > ubuntu-server mailing list > ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server > More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam >
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