On Aug 19, 2009 6:57am, Jussi Schultink <juss...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kiernan,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Kiernan Holland roftho...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's what is needed from the position:
* Define a new design direction or update our current one.
* Create a single theme, wallpaper and if you're really ballsy, an
icon set. (i've been trying to get someone to head up a off-shoot
of Breathe:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/UbuntuStudio)
* Know the technicals of how these work together and on the system.
* Know how to use BZR.
* Be able to troubleshoot issues with the art packages.
* Ability to communicate in a clear and timely manner.
* Find new contributors for things like the website.
Why the hell does this need the involvement of source code?
First, May I ask you calm down a little, theres a spate of posts from you and it seems you are getting a bit frustrated.
This is like helping the wizards who are unaware of what it was like to be an apprentice. Most musicians don't know anything about computers, I dare you to find some who do. Most artists don't know anything about computers.. I dare you to find some who do. Same with video professionals.. While they still may know something about electrical engineering and designing a NTSC black generator from the ground up, you are not going to find a common ground in the code, or with puting requirements on people, to write source code. This is totally unacceptable, and this project and others will die with this approach. This is why Linux sucks and Ubuntu needs to be different..
The position being advertised is for an art lead on a _development_ project. This is not just a call for artwork etc, we have done that in the past and there is a place for submission on the wiki. We are looking for someone to coordinate and define the direction of the art, as well as make sure it is implemented in ubuntu studio. So while I appreciate that for users this stuff is not really suitable, for a member of a development team it is.
What is the UBUNTU motto? Linux for human beings.
Yep exactly. but it still takes people with knowledge to make it that way.
Consider the zip idea I mentioned
GTK themes are already done with archive files (.tar.gz). However this is more than just a theme, it is making sure that everything withing the theme works, the look and feel of the desktop, and much more, as mentioned in the above emails. Once again this is not just about users submitting themes, it is about an Art lead position in a development team.
Also, bzr is not actually that hard to use, it takes less than an hour to learn competently (and I am not a coder before you jump on that). If you would just like to peruse the code, you can look at the files section, as linked from the pages corey gave: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-look/UbuntuStudio/files
For anything that needs code, we could get packages that add special widgets and such.. Theming is really just data.. So why isn't it as simple as that.. Don't give me a lazy coder excuse.
Please, I implore you to check out the actual situation before you make allegations that we are "lazy coders".
Jussi Schultink (jussi01)
Kiernan, I completely empathize with your frustrations with Linux, but I think your critique of Linux 'sucking' because it is not user-friendly is a bit misplaced. It can't be seriously claimed that Linux is a bad system, only that it is very difficult to use. However, many many people are okay with this, because this lack of user-friendliness quite often comes as a result of providing unparalleled versatility and stability.
Now, Ubuntu can quite fairly be criticized for having poor usability because this distribution's focus is on being a user-friendly desktop (as you mentioned). There is no doubt that Ubuntu is so far the best in this regard, but there is still a long way to go before it can be claimed to be truly easy to use for the average person. That's a part of the reason a lot of us are on this list, though: to help work towards making this a better project.
At this point, though, it is best to just accept that some things will still take a lot of time to learn in Linux.
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