No icons on the desktop is a deal-breaker for a lot of people. GNOME tried to 
do that, and was quickly 
forced to bring back that option. An empty default desktop is one thing, but 
not being able to use it would
make what I do much more difficult.

I have heard things like "fat pig" used to describe KDE, but even ultralight 
environments can be set up to 
run the file manager and have icons on the desktop. One of the lightest there 
is, although development 
is minimal these days, is Icewm. By default it is just a taskbar, tray, and 
window manager, but you can put
anything you want in the startup scripts. I use it in my netbook with 
gnome-settings-daemon, nemo, and
nm-applet to make a very light but fully usable desktop.  Main advantage is 
rapid responsiveness-and the
ability to play 720p video because almost all of that tiny processor is 
available. Main disadvantage is that 
all menu and taskbar launcher editing must be done by hand editing text files. 

A few GUI applications to edit the menus and startup scripts, and Icewm could 
be the basis of an ultralight
desktop used for almost any purpose. No more being stuck with a particular file 
manager or an integration 
issue-it doesn't even depend on GTK. Very good as the basis of a custom 
nonaccelerated DE.


<snip>

>Yes KDE is a bit of a resource hog. I would like to slim down xfce 
>even. I
>would like to get rid of anything that puts icons on the desktop, 
>like the
>instance of thunar that runs at session start.
>


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