Am 03.06.2013 17:02, schrieb edmund:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 15:45:29 +0200
> Hartmut Noack <zettber...@linuxuse.de> wrote:
> 
>> Am 03.06.2013 13:22, schrieb edmund:
>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:09:38 +0200
>>> ttoine <tto...@ttoine.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am strongly agaist it.
>>> VLC uses closed/hidden codecs not vailable for other programs and
>>> therefore alone it should not be used at all.
>>
>> What would that be? Cannot find any blobs in the source-download.
> 
> Disclaimer : I come from BeOS ( Be Operating System ) and that was
> good as can be. Each and every program installed that added any codec
> was immediately available for every other program.
> Until VLC fucked it up, it could play one or two other additional codecs
> but this was not in any way usable for any other program.
> So I guess that VLC policy is no different under Linux Windows or any
> other OS.

Guess, OK. Well in Linux any programm that likes to do so can use VLC
and its libs for whatever purpose they like, some video-apps do so and I
never heared anyone complain about the reusability of VLC-libs/functions.

>>
>>> In addtion to that it fucks up the sample rate on a regular basis if
>>> one wants to use music with other then the standard sample rate.
>>
>> Really? Never noticed that at least not for rates such as 48KHz or
>> 32KHz. Anyway it plays anything the way it is played at anyones
>> computer, so it can serve as something like a reference. To use
>> uncommon samplerates I would use Software like MHWaveedit. Having
>> uncommon samplerates in end-user formats like OGG or MP3 makes no
>> sense anyway....
> 
> What are you calling "uncommon" sample rates? Ubuntu Studio is for
> multi media and in my case High res audio. Here we use 96 kHz and 192
> kHz sample rates. 
> VLC player, seems to play these formats too but it doesn't!
> When I play a 80 kHz sine it is audible as - something very different.
> It is far below 20 kHz and clearly audible on 10 Euro loudspeakers,
> so it is definitely not 80 kHz.
> I would say ditch it or use it for things that doesn't matter but not
> for playing high res or quality audio.
> Oh and yes it does so under windows too.
> 
> Edmund
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> HZN
>>
>>>
>>> Edmund
>>>
>>>> VLC is imho the best player we can find for Ubuntu Studio users. It
>>>> can read everything from everywhere, on nearly all drivers (jack,
>>>> and more included).
>>>>
>>>> If we should replace the default multimedia player for a serious
>>>> one in Ubuntu Studio, I am for VLC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Antoine THOMAS
>>>> Tél: 0663137906
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/6/3 Len Ovens <l...@ovenwerks.net>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, June 2, 2013 10:43 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> One more thing about Xine: In a default install of Ubuntustudio,
>>>>>> I was able to play H264/mp4 video in Xine without installing
>>>>>> extra codecs, thanks to the ffmpeg version used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is a policy that gstreamer-ffmpeg can't be shipped by
>>>>>> default
>>>>> but
>>>>>> the underlying ffmpeg can be, that's inconsistant. I know that
>>>>>> sort of decision gets made upstream, but it creates a default
>>>>>> install that can't do it's default job if enforced strictly, due
>>>>>> to the nature of current
>>>>>> cameras and audio recorders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A multimedia distro without codecs can't play most media
>>>>>> distributed by windows users or commericial websites. Much more
>>>>>> seriously, it also can't play ORIGINAL media produced by a
>>>>>> majority of midrange video cameras and even audio recorders.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have tried to ship with everything needed. So we added the
>>>>> libav-extra set of packages. As far as I know We just hadn't
>>>>> thought of the gs packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Len Ovens
>>>>> www.OvenWerks.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
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