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>    1.  ubuntustudio webide background im second try!
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> From: J?hann ?rn Geirdal <johann.orn.geir...@gmail.com>
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> >    1. Re:  ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Set Hallstrom)
> >    2. Re:  ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (autumna)
> >    3. Re:  ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Ralf Mardorf)
> >    4. Re:  ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Ralf Mardorf)
> >    5. Re:  ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Set Hallstrom)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200
> > From: Set Hallstrom <s...@ubuntustudio.org>
> > To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol
> >         110, Issue 5
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> > On 2016-06-13 18:09, J?hann ?rn Geirdal wrote:
> > > Hi here is my first try on this http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0
> >
> > \o/ yeah! you deliver! Looks real cool! It's the first shot, and i'm
> > sure we can get it even cooler with a few rounds of execution/feedback
> > pingpong!!
> >
> > The font will be "ubuntu regular" http://font.ubuntu.com/ but i'm
> > guessing you just put text to show that it works for the purpose? :)
> >
> > The thing i'm not super fond of, is the deformation of the logo. Maybe
> > it's an optical illusion as a result of how you cut it? But it looks
> > kind of oval. I also notice that you are using an old version of the CoF
> > (Circle of Friends = ubunutu studio logo) that has a bump in the midle
> > circle's edge.
> > The correct one is here:
> >
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files
> >
> > Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could fix
> > that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try?
> >
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/
> > But feel free to draw your own :)
> >
> > You can download the svg-files from the launchpad-links above, but the
> > coolest, fastest, bestest is to use bazaar, are you familiar with it?
> > (bzr) Krytarik and zequence are my bzr sensei's. I could maybe help you
> > get familiar with it on IRC, but if you manage to get them to teach you,
> > chances are you will become better than me in no time! :)
> >
> > Until then, you can read more about bzr here:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment
> >
> > Cheers king!
> > --
> > Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:23:04 +0300
> > From: autumna <autu...@gmail.com>
> > To: Ubuntu Studio Development <ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol
> >         110, Issue 5
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> > belated reply. :)
> > pretty much what everybody said so far. 2 very minor opinions.
> >
> > If and only if you still have the larger files, actually having a larger
> > resolution might be a good idea. one layout we were working with uses
> > the full width. if you don't have them, it is no big deal. we'll make it
> > work.
> >
> > I assume the text will be separate in final version? It is better for
> > SEO and for people who disable the download of big images. Our wordpress
> > plugins and templates will allow us to place the text as on top of the
> > image. :)
> >
> > Best
> >
> > autumna
> >
> > On 06/13/2016 08:25 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> > > On 2016-06-13 18:09, J?hann ?rn Geirdal wrote:
> > >> Hi here is my first try on this http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0
> > > \o/ yeah! you deliver! Looks real cool! It's the first shot, and i'm
> > > sure we can get it even cooler with a few rounds of execution/feedback
> > > pingpong!!
> > >
> > > The font will be "ubuntu regular" http://font.ubuntu.com/ but i'm
> > > guessing you just put text to show that it works for the purpose? :)
> > >
> > > The thing i'm not super fond of, is the deformation of the logo. Maybe
> > > it's an optical illusion as a result of how you cut it? But it looks
> > > kind of oval. I also notice that you are using an old version of the
> CoF
> > > (Circle of Friends = ubunutu studio logo) that has a bump in the midle
> > > circle's edge.
> > > The correct one is here:
> > >
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files
> > >
> > > Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could
> fix
> > > that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try?
> > >
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/
> > > But feel free to draw your own :)
> > >
> > > You can download the svg-files from the launchpad-links above, but the
> > > coolest, fastest, bestest is to use bazaar, are you familiar with it?
> > > (bzr) Krytarik and zequence are my bzr sensei's. I could maybe help you
> > > get familiar with it on IRC, but if you manage to get them to teach
> you,
> > > chances are you will become better than me in no time! :)
> > >
> > > Until then, you can read more about bzr here:
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment
> > >
> > > Cheers king!
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200
> > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net>
> > To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol
> >         110, Issue 5
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> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> > >Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could
> > >fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try?
> > >
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/
> >
> > No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to
> > drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the
> > Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a
> > background picture showing chumps.
> > You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people
> > and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner.
> >
> > The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with
> > video, graphics and audio.
> >
> > Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok.
> > Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok.
> > Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle,
> > I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination
> > with video.
> >
> > It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just
> > blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue
> > and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio.
> >
> > However, the font is good readable on all of the three backgrounds.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ralf
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:44:00 +0200
> > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net>
> > To: Ubuntu Studio devel <ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol
> >         110, Issue 5
> > Message-ID: <20160613204400.1a6cb106@archlinux.localdomain>
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> >
> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> > >>Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could
> > >>fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not
> > >>try?
> > >>
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/
> > >
> > >No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to
> > >drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the
> > >Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a
> > >background picture showing chumps.
> > >You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people
> > >and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner.
> > >
> > >The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with
> > >video, graphics and audio.
> > >
> > >Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok.
> > >Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok.
> > >Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle,
> > >I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination
> > >with video.
> > >
> > >It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just
> > >blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue
> > >and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio.
> > >
> > >However, the font is good readable on all of the three backgrounds.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Ralf
> >
> > PS: Assumed the CoF is else were on the website, then replacing it by
> > the category icons makes sense, but this doesn't release from showing a
> > picture that is related to the category.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:10:52 +0200
> > From: Set Hallstrom <s...@ubuntustudio.org>
> > To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol
> >         110, Issue 5
> > Message-ID: <575fbc0c.8050...@ubuntustudio.org>
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> >
> > Hi Ralf!
> >
> > Thanks for getting involved Ralf!
> >
> > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> > Why not
> > >>> try?
> > >>>
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/
> > >>
> > >> No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to
> > >> drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the
> > >> Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a
> > >> background picture showing chumps.
> > >> You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy
> people
> > >> and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner.
> >
> > :) i agree (although, this is not about "my" brand, but we all know
> > that...right? :D) The thing is that we _will_ have the logo all over the
> > place like you suggested in your Post Scriptum.
> >
> > On 2016-06-13 20:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > PS: Assumed the CoF is else were on the website, then replacing it by
> > > the category icons makes sense
> >
> > In fact it made me realize that i didn't ask for anything to illustrate
> > the first section of the feature tour, that outlines what U-S is more
> > broadly. That would be the place for the logo as placed in Geirdal's
> > proposals. It would also be a great place for a background that is
> > purely Mandelbrot-based.
> >
> > >>
> > >> The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with
> > >> video, graphics and audio.
> >
> > That is the point i tried to make of merging the abstract Mandelbrot
> > patterns with something more figurative like the icons. But it could be
> > 3d model?
> >
> > Some suggestions:
> > Video
> > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/camera
> > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/lens
> > (preferably one that has no brand)
> > Graphics:
> > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/pencil
> > Audio:
> > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/speakers
> > http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/music
> >
> > Although, we have to be careful not to clutter it too much to preserve
> > the readability.
> >
> > >>
> > >> Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok.
> > >> Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok.
> > >> Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color
> circle,
> > >> I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination
> > >> with video.
> > >>
> > >> It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green,
> just
> > >> blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue
> > >> and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio.
> >
> > Although i might not personally be 100% convinced about our color scheme
> > I'm not sure it is a good idea to start moving the colors around. Color
> > is a difficult thing to agree over, and setting up a voting system will
> > take a lot of time for something that is already established and
> > functioning. As far I understood, blue orange and purple where decided
> > before i joined. They have been the colors for the categories in
> > question since at least 14.04. I think changing them now is doing what
> > you warned us about above with your kokakola allegory: diluting focus.
> > It would also theoretically render false lots of things that we have
> > been done until now, not to mention the difficult task to synchronize
> > the community with the new color-values.
> >
> > What we could discuss at this point is the exact tonality of the orange
> > and the purple (the blue being exactly defined since way back as Ralf
> > says). But because these images are not plain colors, i think Geirdal
> > should carry on with the current toning.
> >
> > Discussion about exact hexadecimal tonality values should, if desired,
> > be focused on other graphic elements that we include in the desktop
> > (icons, woodmarks, highlight etc...) Changing "corporate" branding is
> > something that has to be well prepared and communicated, and therefor i
> > think they should go into a separate thread.
> >
> > I'm sorry to come off as such a naysayer, Ralf. I think you make good
> > points and i'm glad you chose to take part of this. I like your ideas as
> > you suggested for the mockup of 16.04
> >
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/trunk/view/head:/16.04/unified-design-1604/mockups/
> > I'd very much like to take a deeper look together with everyone into
> > this color thing for next LTS :)
> >
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> Hi I have added the catogary images and footage from Tears of steal, an
> open blender movie. It has it all: soundtrack, 3d graphics and is video :)
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