Hi Seb,
On 11/24/23 06:40, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
Hey Erich,
I'm a relatively new member of the TB and not familiar with how
flavors were granted LTS status in the past but let me share my
perspective on what you wrote.
Le 24/11/2023 à 07:02, Erich Eickmeyer a écrit :
That said, this seems way too detailed for a repeated LTS. I will
certainly follow this for Edubuntu since it's returning after 10
years, but for Ubuntu Studio, and any other flavor with a prior LTS
in the past two years, this should be a much lower bar.
Checking
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2016-April/002213.html
what I see in this example is 7 bullet points and less than 20 lines
of text (wrapped at 80chars), that doesn't seem a long or unachievable
task to me. Could you be a specifics on what exactly is making the bar
too high in your opinion?
To me it feels like it would have taken you less time to write those
details than those emails...
I wasn't made aware of that email until Steve's reply, so I had no
example to work from. Furthermore, this wasn't just about me as this
affects all flavors. I've spoken to others who have been blindsided by
this requirement that have been release managers for their respective
flavors for as long as I have.
That said, I'm not standing-down from this challenge, but revising
it: I challenge the Technical Board to revisit and more clearly
define exactly what "Flavor's support plan presented to Tech Board
and approved; support planshould indicate period of time if beyond 18
months (3yrs or 5yr), keycontacts, and setting expectations as to
level of support." means with specifics, as the wording is too vague.
Furthermore, the policy wording is clearly outdated ("18 months"),
has been around too long without revision (2011) and the policy
itself should probably be reworked in collaboration with the Flavor
Leads as is the spirit of Ubuntu.
The page could be probably be a bit more specific on what is asked
indeed. I think it's a fair ask for the TB to review the current
wording and policy and see if we believe changes are needed. We do
review mailing list activity and open questions during our IRC
meetings so we should be able to pick it up next time
This is essentially what I was looking for, but since I get ignored so
often on these matters, I felt it needed further attention. And, indeed,
it does affect volunteerism. While I do have a technical mind, I'm
trained in the ways of supporting volunteers and I bleed community, so I
will do whatever it takes to protect volunteers, not simply including
myself.
With that, I thank you for the consideration on this matter.
--
Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio
Technical Lead - Edubuntu
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