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Re: First impressions - what's JACK? (Tomas Valusek) > 10. Re: Selecting Hardware for Music Production (Sean Darby) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0700 > From: "Paul DeShaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: change background colors in JACK? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Greetings, > > I believe this has been asked before, but so far I have not seen an > answer. If I missed it, forgive me for asking again. > > When I open JACK, much of it is completely illegible, because of the > dark text on a dark background. I can't read the labels on the tabs > in the Connect window, nor can I see the lines showing the > connections. Changing GNOME themes doesn't affect it. I have also > tried customizing the Ubuntu Studio theme in various ways, but I can't > seem to change those colors. I have this trouble on my desktop, with > an old CRT monitor and low-end ATI graphics. On my Apple laptop, > Ubuntu Studio is stunning, especially with Compriz. It's just the > desktop where there's a problem. > > Thanks, > > Paul in Seattle > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:40:40 +0100 > From: Tomas Valusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: First impressions - what's JACK? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed > > Hello, > > I'm a music teacher. I'm visually impaired, but don't need to use > assistive technologies, I prefer to utilize various system settings such > as varying font sizes, altering color schemes, or using light-weight > magnifiers, one of which is built directly into X server - ability to > have smaller screen resolution than desktop size. But this doesn't seem > to work in 8.10, Alt+grey+ and Alt+gray- don't respond as expected. > > But that's not why I write this post. Music software in general is very > demanding to ... sight, a very strange thing considering the result is > meant to be perceived by ear. Windows music creation software is very > expensive, and after working with it for several hours my eyes hurt > badly from constant chasing of mouse pointer. I watch Linux since its > bearth in 1991 and from time to time I have tried various distros. > Ubuntu Studio is very attractive to me because 1. as a free software, I > can use it anywhere not caring about software activation or any other > license matters, and 2. I hope I can eventually get a music creation > tool which would suit my needs - by providing feedback to developers. > > But currently, I feel tossed away by Ubuntu Studio - if I run apps like > MusE or Rosegarden, they complain JACK is not found. As a Windows user, > I have no ide what's JACK for, and searching the Net yields some pages > describing JACK from developer's point of view, no end-user, > non-technical howto exists AFAIK. I think if I get specialized distro > like Ubuntu Studio, no such dialogs should appear after install, this > should be configured during install. > > User docs of Ubuntu Studio are heavily outdated and incomplete, an > article about audio apps has just the heading saying JACK and JACK apps, > but nothing is written about this subject. I wanted to look into forums, > but after clicking a linke labeled Genearl help, no "studio" string is > found on that page. Yes, there is Multimedia production forum, but there > should be specific Ubuntu Studio forum with "studio" in its name, where > distro-specific issues should be discussed. > > Nevertheless, I'm not going to give up, since I'd like to create music > without my eyes hurting :-) > > Best Regards. > > Tomas Valusek > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:46:52 +0000 > From: "Hakan Koseoglu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK? > To: "Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Tomas, > > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Tomas Valusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> But currently, I feel tossed away by Ubuntu Studio - if I run apps like >> MusE or Rosegarden, they complain JACK is not found. As a Windows user, >> I have no ide what's JACK for, and searching the Net yields some pages >> describing JACK from developer's point of view, no end-user, >> non-technical howto exists AFAIK. I think if I get specialized distro >> like Ubuntu Studio, no such dialogs should appear after install, this >> should be configured during install. >> > Jack is a daemon that provides connection services between various > applications. > If you have Ubuntu Studio installed, in the menus look for "Jack > Control". After that all you need to do is hit the start button. If > everything goes well, its display will say "Started". After that you > can use Jack-supporting software. You can create connections between > various applications (rerouting inputs and outputs) with the "Connect" > button. > > There is also a very helpful, generic mailing group called Linux Audio > Users in lau.linuxaudio.org, I would recommend subscribing to that > mailing group since quite a lot of linux and audio creation questions > and answers happen there. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:49:56 +0100 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: change background colors in JACK? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0700 > "Paul DeShaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Greetings, >> >> I believe this has been asked before, but so far I have not seen an >> answer. If I missed it, forgive me for asking again. >> >> When I open JACK, much of it is completely illegible, because of the >> dark text on a dark background. I can't read the labels on the tabs >> in the Connect window, nor can I see the lines showing the >> connections. Changing GNOME themes doesn't affect it. I have also >> tried customizing the Ubuntu Studio theme in various ways, but I can't >> seem to change those colors. I have this trouble on my desktop, with >> an old CRT monitor and low-end ATI graphics. On my Apple laptop, >> Ubuntu Studio is stunning, especially with Compriz. It's just the >> desktop where there's a problem. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul in Seattle >> >> > > Hi Paul. > Since qackctl (the application you use to control jack) is a qt > application you might need to change the appearance for > qt-applications. I don't know how the applications to do this are > called but I'm sure you can find out. > > Philipp > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:59:56 +0100 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:40:40 +0100 > Tomas Valusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hello, >> >> I'm a music teacher. I'm visually impaired, but don't need to use >> assistive technologies, I prefer to utilize various system settings >> such as varying font sizes, altering color schemes, or using >> light-weight magnifiers, one of which is built directly into X server >> - ability to have smaller screen resolution than desktop size. But >> this doesn't seem to work in 8.10, Alt+grey+ and Alt+gray- don't >> respond as expected. >> > > There are even blind people using linux for audio production, so it's > possible with some effort. And those magnifiers are really handy, stuff > tends to be far too small nowadays. > > >> But that's not why I write this post. Music software in general is >> very demanding to ... sight, a very strange thing considering the >> result is meant to be perceived by ear. Windows music creation >> software is very expensive, and after working with it for several >> hours my eyes hurt badly from constant chasing of mouse pointer. I >> watch Linux since its bearth in 1991 and from time to time I have >> tried various distros. Ubuntu Studio is very attractive to me because >> 1. as a free software, I can use it anywhere not caring about >> software activation or any other license matters, and 2. I hope I can >> eventually get a music creation tool which would suit my needs - by >> providing feedback to developers. >> >> But currently, I feel tossed away by Ubuntu Studio - if I run apps >> like MusE or Rosegarden, they complain JACK is not found. As a >> Windows user, I have no ide what's JACK for, and searching the Net >> yields some pages describing JACK from developer's point of view, no >> end-user, non-technical howto exists AFAIK. I think if I get >> specialized distro like Ubuntu Studio, no such dialogs should appear >> after install, this should be configured during install. >> > > Jack is a low-latency soundserver, comparable to asio if you want, but > it also lets you connect audio and midi applications in a flexible > manner. > Some applications start jack themselves, one of them is ardour. > The general problem is that jack needs to be configured for ones > hardware to work properly and the user needs some knowledge of what it > is. > > > >> User docs of Ubuntu Studio are heavily outdated and incomplete, an >> article about audio apps has just the heading saying JACK and JACK >> apps, but nothing is written about this subject. I wanted to look >> into forums, but after clicking a linke labeled Genearl help, no >> "studio" string is found on that page. Yes, there is Multimedia >> production forum, but there should be specific Ubuntu Studio forum >> with "studio" in its name, where distro-specific issues should be >> discussed. >> > > I know that the docs are outdated. I attempted to write a short > tutorial for firsttime jack users but lost interest, try to find it on > the wiki, it's called jackquickstart or something. > > Multimediaproduction is the category for ubuntu studio, I think they > chose this to show that ubuntu and ubuntu studio is mostly the same and > not a completely different distro. > > Best regards, > Philipp > > >> Nevertheless, I'm not going to give up, since I'd like to create >> music without my eyes hurting :-) >> >> Best Regards. >> >> Tomas Valusek >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:11:18 +0000 > From: Alex Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Removing Timidity > To: Alex Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I tried removing timidity but apparently hydrogen depends on it, and > will segfault without it. I removed both timidity and hydrogen and > then reinstalled hydrogen (in case it was a dependency problem) but > hydrogen still segfaults. Looks like I need to keep timidity after all. > -- Alex > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Alex Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> Hello, >> I couldn't find this info in the mailing list archive, but excuse me >> if I've managed to repeat someone else's question. >> Is there a good reason for me to keep timidity on my system if I >> only intend to do Midi through rosegarden and Qsynth? Is there a >> reason why that combo is an inferior choice? >> >> Thanks, >> -- Alex >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:24:33 +0100 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: change background colors in JACK? > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > is a gtk+ version of jackctl in development? > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0700 >> "Paul DeShaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I believe this has been asked before, but so far I have not seen an >>> answer. If I missed it, forgive me for asking again. >>> >>> When I open JACK, much of it is completely illegible, because of the >>> dark text on a dark background. I can't read the labels on the tabs >>> in the Connect window, nor can I see the lines showing the >>> connections. Changing GNOME themes doesn't affect it. I have also >>> tried customizing the Ubuntu Studio theme in various ways, but I can't >>> seem to change those colors. I have this trouble on my desktop, with >>> an old CRT monitor and low-end ATI graphics. On my Apple laptop, >>> Ubuntu Studio is stunning, especially with Compriz. It's just the >>> desktop where there's a problem. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Paul in Seattle >>> >>> >>> >> Hi Paul. >> Since qackctl (the application you use to control jack) is a qt >> application you might need to change the appearance for >> qt-applications. I don't know how the applications to do this are >> called but I'm sure you can find out. >> >> Philipp >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:26:57 +0100 > From: Tomas Valusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK? > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, > > Hakan Koseoglu napsal(a): > >> Jack is a daemon that provides connection services between various >> applications. >> If you have Ubuntu Studio installed, in the menus look for "Jack >> Control". After that all you need to do is hit the start button. If >> everything goes well, its display will say "Started". After that you >> can use Jack-supporting software. You can create connections between >> various applications (rerouting inputs and outputs) with the "Connect" >> button. >> > > Thanks for explanation. Is it possible to configure JACK to start itself > automatically during boot? > > >> There is also a very helpful, generic mailing group called Linux Audio >> Users in lau.linuxaudio.org, I would recommend subscribing to that >> mailing group since quite a lot of linux and audio creation questions >> and answers happen there. >> > > Yes, I'm subscribed to this group already. > > Tomas Valusek > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:32:34 +0100 > From: Tomas Valusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK? > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a): > >> There are even blind people using linux for audio production, so it's >> possible with some effort. And those magnifiers are really handy, stuff >> tends to be far too small nowadays. >> > > Yes, but I'm somwhere in-between - I prefer to work visually, but my > sight is not good enough to go on without some appearance adjustements. > > >> Multimediaproduction is the category for ubuntu studio, I think they >> chose this to show that ubuntu and ubuntu studio is mostly the same and >> not a completely different distro. >> > > Maybe it would be helpful to extend its name tu include "studio" string > - you know, I go "Ubuntu Studio", so I searched for "studio" string. > Maybe extending groups name with "(Ubuntu Studio)" would be just good > enough. > > Tomas Valusek > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:26:17 -0600 > From: Sean Darby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Selecting Hardware for Music Production > To: Sean Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ubuntu Studio Users Help > and Discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > >>> I'd like to record bass guitar, acoustic guitars, electric guitars, >>> >> electronic drumset, midi keyboard, vocals, occasional woodwind/brass >> instruments. >> >> Are you going to play all these instruments yourself as separate >> tracks, or will other people play them as you record? >> >> -=Sean Edwards=- >> > > Both. In some cases I'll play them myself, in other cases there will be > 3 to 5 people playing together. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > >
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