Thanks community for such nice response. I install fresh Ubuntu studio 16.04.1. During install I choose to use 3rd party plugins and Update. After install complete i Update all again including language . Now I open software centre to install vlc.
But to my surprise it opens and closes automatically and ask me to send error report, which I send. Logout and login again and open software centre again but now it opens and in closes all of suddenly and it persists till now. I had clean installed many times like 12.04, 14.04 but it is first time I see Ubuntu behave like Microsoft Windows. I even re-download hoping there may be some error in download but 2nd time same. I had used 16.04 Ubuntu studio on the sama machine. Don't know why its coming. I am a cinematographer and I use Ubuntu studio in home for some multimedia creation and videography. That's why I had less knowledge about command line. But I love Ubuntu studio for its simple non Linux user friendly approach. So I may try to learn but not sure, till then pls help me. Thanks again community for support Regards. On 18 Nov 2016 5:31 p.m., <ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > Send ubuntu-studio-users mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-studio-users-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Lawrence H. Bulk) > 2. Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Ralf Mardorf) > 3. Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Lawrence H. Bulk) > 4. Why recommending apt-get is obsolet - Re: Software centre > not working and crashes (Ralf Mardorf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:09:35 -0500 > From: "Lawrence H. Bulk" <lhbc...@gmail.com> > To: Ubuntu Studio Users <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Software centre not working and > crashes > Message-ID: > <CAC1vDTx227diy6-x_AYH5GLPBZ7vYRGG7x5P+w3yAe_ > iogj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I can appreciate the fact that you are not comfortable with the command > line. > > But try this: > > Open the Terminal > > Type (or, preferably, copy) the following: > > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo update-manager > > This will update the computer. I use these commands to check for updates > every day > > (The update-manager will let you know if the computer must be rebooted.) > > If computer did not need to be rebooted, type the following: > > sudo apt-get install synaptic > > (If the computer needed to be rebooted, just do so and then open the > Terminal again and type the Synaptic Package Manager installation command.) > > You can install anything you want from the Synaptic Package Manager which, > though older and not as 'pretty', actually works far better and faster than > does the Software Centre. If you wish to install programs not in Synaptic > you might want to install the gdebi program (sudo apt-get install gdebi) > which works much better at installing such programs than does the Software > Centre. > > Another valuable use for the command line is the ability to install extra > PPAs which may contain other programs you may wish to use. Installation of > these PPAs via the command line is very easy. > > Don't be afraid of the command line (the Terminal). I was until I > discovered how easy it is to actually use. Most of the time I still use > GUIs but there are times when the Terminal is better. Daily updating is one > of them and sometimes installing a program is too. (To install a program > via the command line you must know its EXACT name.) In almost every case > the Terminal runs whatever you wish to do faster than does a GUI. At least > that's been my experience. > > I hope that this helps you. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/ > attachments/20161117/a384198f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:52:39 +0100 > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> > To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Software centre not working and > crashes > Message-ID: <20161117165239.462c3e35@archlinux.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi, > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:09:35 -0500, Lawrence H. Bulk wrote: > >If computer did not need to be rebooted, type the following: > > > >sudo apt-get install synaptic > > You could install synaptic, before you reboot. There usually is no > reason to reboot at all. A reboot only makes sense sometimes, e.g. if > you want to use a new kernel, or if the old kernel and it's modules were > removed and you want to start something, that requires modules, that are > not already loaded. However, you could reboot, it doesn't harm. > > The reason I reply is to inform you about "apt" and "gdebi from command > line". > > >If you wish to install programs not in Synaptic you might want to > >install the gdebi program (sudo apt-get install gdebi) which works > >much better at installing such programs than does the Software Centre. > > AFAIK Synaptic can't do what gdebi could do. IIRC Synaptic can only > install from repositories, while gdebi could install local packages and > resolve dependencies from repositories. Local packages are downloaded > packages or packages you build on your own. However, for 16.04.1 there > is no need to use gdebi, since apt can do it now, too. > > In the past > > sudo dpkg -i <path/package> && sudo apt-get install -f > > or > > sudo gdebi <path/package> > > was needed to install a local package and resolve dependencies, > nowadays apt is able to do the same. IOW there's no need to install > anything, just run > > sudo apt install <path/package> > > Current versions of apt are able to install local packages and resolve > dependencies. This might not work for old versions of apt, but the > version provided by 16.04.1 isn't old. > > For new releases of Ubuntu, such as 16.04.1 > > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > should be replaced by > > sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade > > since apt became the new official tool for Ubuntu flavours. Help pages > still mention apt-get, because at least one Ubuntu release that is > still supported, doesn't provide apt. Anyway, novices don't need to > learn apt-get commands, it's better thy directly learn apt commands. > > Regards, > Ralf > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:58:30 -0500 > From: "Lawrence H. Bulk" <lhbc...@gmail.com> > To: Ubuntu Studio Users <ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Software centre not working and > crashes > Message-ID: > <CAC1vDTy7hg_Ora06hyfYTr4uKQdSY0Os5j5F8uwT7 > yoimzs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > To Ralf: > > You may have misunderstood somewhat the nature and reason for my > explanation to the OP. He stated that with a new UbuntuStudio installation, > the Software Centre crashes. This is not the first time I have heard of > such a problem (though it has never happened to me). > > He also stated that he was not truly comfortable using the command line. > > I recommended 'apt-get' because it ALWAYS works and does so on every > Debian-derived distribution of which I am aware. (I use 'apt' myself on my > own UbuntuStudio machine.) > > I explained that, after he updates via the command line that he ALSO run > the Update Manager. The command line does not tell you when it is necessary > to reboot and I do not know how frequently or when the OP last updated his > installation. If it has been a while, a reboot is probably in order. But > the Update Manager will let him know for sure if it's necessary or not. > Frankly I do this myself every day because my computer updates much faster > using the Terminal than it does with the Update Manager or Synaptic. > > Perhaps I did not make myself clear: Synaptic (which, in my opinion, is far > superior to that hopeless Software Centre) can only install programs which > are in whatever repositories are currently activated on his computer. And, > if his Software Centre is somehow corrupted, he needs Synaptic in order to > install new programs. > > Gdebi installs downloaded (locally stored) .deb programs and does so much > better than does the Software Centre. Such programs are now not often used > as many (most?) of them now have their own PPAs, for example, the VLC > Nightly Builds. But I feel that it's still useful to have gdebi installed > and I wanted to help the OP to become a little more familiar with the > command line. > > I hope that this clarifies things and is helpful to the OP. > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net > > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:09:35 -0500, Lawrence H. Bulk wrote: > > >If computer did not need to be rebooted, type the following: > > > > > >sudo apt-get install synaptic > > > > You could install synaptic, before you reboot. There usually is no > > reason to reboot at all. A reboot only makes sense sometimes, e.g. if > > you want to use a new kernel, or if the old kernel and it's modules were > > removed and you want to start something, that requires modules, that are > > not already loaded. However, you could reboot, it doesn't harm. > > > > The reason I reply is to inform you about "apt" and "gdebi from command > > line". > > > > >If you wish to install programs not in Synaptic you might want to > > >install the gdebi program (sudo apt-get install gdebi) which works > > >much better at installing such programs than does the Software Centre. > > > > AFAIK Synaptic can't do what gdebi could do. IIRC Synaptic can only > > install from repositories, while gdebi could install local packages and > > resolve dependencies from repositories. Local packages are downloaded > > packages or packages you build on your own. However, for 16.04.1 there > > is no need to use gdebi, since apt can do it now, too. > > > > In the past > > > > sudo dpkg -i <path/package> && sudo apt-get install -f > > > > or > > > > sudo gdebi <path/package> > > > > was needed to install a local package and resolve dependencies, > > nowadays apt is able to do the same. IOW there's no need to install > > anything, just run > > > > sudo apt install <path/package> > > > > Current versions of apt are able to install local packages and resolve > > dependencies. This might not work for old versions of apt, but the > > version provided by 16.04.1 isn't old. > > > > For new releases of Ubuntu, such as 16.04.1 > > > > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > > > should be replaced by > > > > sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade > > > > since apt became the new official tool for Ubuntu flavours. Help pages > > still mention apt-get, because at least one Ubuntu release that is > > still supported, doesn't provide apt. Anyway, novices don't need to > > learn apt-get commands, it's better thy directly learn apt commands. > > > > Regards, > > Ralf > > > > -- > > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/ > attachments/20161117/65c6eb9e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:05:20 +0100 > From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> > To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: [ubuntu-studio-users] Why recommending apt-get is obsolet - > Re: Software centre not working and crashes > Message-ID: <20161118110520.5c2a72e2@archlinux.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Lawrence, I only wanted to inform, that from command line apt-get is not > the official Ubuntu package management tool anymore. It is apt. For > command line gdebi is replaced by apt, too. For scripts and very old > Ubuntu releases it remains to be apt-get. > > My information is not related to the GUIs. > > In regards to reboots, it never is necessary to reboot, it just is > required, if a user wants to use e.g. an upgraded kernel, but actually > it's possible to continue using an old kernel, even if it was purged, > it's still in the memory. In short, yes, command line doesn't inform if > you need to reboot, simply because there is no need to reboot. If a user > expects new features that aren't available, then it's a general > troubleshooting rule to reboot. Without rebooting nothing evil could > happen. > > There are reasons why Ubuntu migrated to apt and why we should start to > explain novices how to use apt, instead of apt-get. > > Apart from eye-candy, there's one important apt default setting that > differs to the default setting of apt-get. By default apt doesn't keep > packages in cache. It's possible to change the default settings for apt > as well as apt-get, however, by default they don't share the same > settings. > > The confusing name "dist-upgrade" was replaced by "full-upgrade". > > Not only gdebi is replaced by apt, also a few dpkg commands became > unnecessary when using apt. > > Recommending apt-get, gdebi and a few dpkg commands only makes sense if > we don't know what release of Ubuntu is used, or if scripts should use a > command with pipes and things like this. > > If we know that somebody does use a new release of Ubuntu Studio, it's > better if Ubuntu flavour mailing lists follow common practise of Ubuntu > mailing lists, this is to explain usage of apt. As soon as the last > supported release not providing apt reaches end of life, the Wiki/help > pages should be edited, IOW apt-get should be replaced by apt. > > Sure, apt-get still is safe and doesn't harm, other then the frowned > upon aptitude, it's not bad to mention apt-get. The reason to prefer > mentioning apt over apt-get is, that for the Ubuntu desktop and Ubuntu > flavours desktop main target group apt introduced more > user-friendliness. > > Regards, > Ralf > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > End of ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 115, Issue 6 > *************************************************** >
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