Hi all,
Please see the forwarded email below. I'm forwarding this to you so
that you can see the dire need we have at this time for a MOTU to
step-in, sponsor the packages that we need sponsoring, and then
sponsor myself and/or Ross to become Per-Package Uploaders (PPU).
There is a meeting on Monday to decide this. I have to have my
application (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Eickmeyer/DeveloperApplication)
done by Friday, which means the packages awaiting sponsorship must
be sponsored and Ross and/or Myself must be sponsored as well by
said sponsor. If this does not happen, then there will not be a
19.04 release, which could effectively kill Ubuntu Studio as an
official flavor of Ubuntu.
So, please spread the word, and try to rally support to keep this
effort afloat.
Thanks,
< div>Erich
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Erich Eickmeyer
Council Chair
Ubuntu Studio
ubuntustudio.org
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steve Langasek <steve.langa...@ubuntu.com>
Subject: UbuntuStudio flavor status in jeopardy, action needed [Was,
Re: [Ubuntu Studio] Cry For Help]
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 14:23:18 -0800
To: developer-membership-bo...@lists.ubuntu.com
Cc: technical-bo...@lists.ubuntu.com, Erich Eickmeyer
<eeickme...@ubuntu.com>, Ross Gammon <ros...@ubuntu.com>
Dear DMB,
In October 2016, I wrote a mail to ask the DMB to revisit their
approach to
the question of Ubuntu upload rights for Ross Gammon, in light of
the fact
that this meant the difference between having or not having any
uploaders on
the team of an official flavor, UbuntuStudio.
Because there has been some turnover on the DMB since then, and
because I'm
adding some new cc:s here (including the TB), I'll quote my original
email
for context:
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 10:49:57AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Hi Ross,
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 07:11:06PM +0200, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi Laney & Steve,
> Thanks for helping us out in the Ubuntu Studio Team. I know you
guys
> already have plenty on the go.
> As Set says, I did apply to be a Contributor. But, because I
had only a
> few uploads in Ubuntu (I am a DM in Debian), and all to different
> sponsors, I didn't manage to get any endorsements. It didn't
help that
> I emailed all the sponsors just before the northern hemisphere
holidays
> either :-)
> Anyway, after a few more sponsored uploads you can expect a fresh
> application to the DMB. I will probably ask for PPU rights to
the
> ubuntustudio-* packages first. And then I will begin working
towards
> rights to the Ubuntu Studio package set (which needs a little
update by
> the way).
I think it's important that we as a community not be overly
process-bound
here. It is of course still necessary to make sure the people
asking for
upload rights are trustworthy and know what they're doing, but
we're talking
here about a situation where an official Ubuntu flavor has an
active
community but no active members with upload rights. Fixing this
should not
require multiple round trips to the DMB for them to grant
gradually more
permissions over a span of months; the Ubuntu Studio package set
exists to
serve the needs of the Ubuntu Studio community, and it should be
uncontroversial for the folks who are actually maintaining Ubuntu
Studio to
be given access to this package set.
I am cc:ing the DMB to make sure they're aware of this situation,
and to ask
them to proactively address this gap for the Ubuntu Studio team.
While this resulted in some email discussion with members of the DMB
at the
time, there was apparently no formal follow-up by the DMB, and I am
dismayed
to learn that two years on the situation remains unchanged and there
are no
active members of the ubuntustudio team with upload rights to the
Ubuntu
archive, which only came to my attention because of Erich
Eickmeyer's email
this weekend to ubuntu-release:
On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 11:54:38AM -0800, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
[Sent to: Ubuntu Studio Development, Ubuntu MOTUs, Ubuntu Release
Team]
Hello all,
Over the course of the past few months, myself, Len Ovens, and
Ross Gammon
have been working hard on updating the Ubuntu Studio tools. In
particluar,
we have done a number of things to the tools:
* Updated Ubuntu Studio Controls (ubuntustudio-controls) with a
number of
bug fixes
* Renamed Ubuntu Studio Meta Installer to Ubuntu Studio Installer
(ubuntustudio-installer) and gave it a secondary purpose of
installing
Ubuntu Studio's stack on top of a flavor other than Ubuntu Studio
(think of
Ubuntu Studio as a ToolKit)
* Updated Ubuntu Studio's default theme and icon theme (part of
ubuntustudio-look and ubuntustudio-default-settings in addition to
ubuntustudio-icon-theme)
* Updated Ubuntu Studio's plymouth boot theme (part of
ubuntustudio-look)
* Added a GRUB theme (grub2-themes-ubuntustudio)
* Fixed bugs and missing apps in our menu (ubuntustudio-menu)
* Worked upstream with the developer of Carla to get Carla in
Ubuntu's
repos.
Unfortunately, none of that made it in before feature freeze,
despite my
mailing our development list that it needed to happen, and tagging
certain
packages with [needs packaging]. Perhaps I'm just doing it wrong.
Basically, it comes down to this: Nobody on the Ubuntu Studio Team
has
upload privileges in any way. As such, these tools are sitting
waiting to be
uploaded.
So now, unless I'm wrong, each one of the packages now needs a
Feature
Freeze Exception to be uploaded into the repo. This is
disappointing
because, as of right now, Ubuntu Studio 19.04 is looking identical
to Ubuntu
Studio 18.10.
My intention was to apply to become a MOTU after the release of
19.04 in
order to prevent situations like this from happening again.
Unfortunately,
it looks like that will be too late unless we can get someone to
get in and
review these packages:
* https://launchpad.net/grub2-themes-ubuntustudio
* https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls
* https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-installer
* https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-icon-theme
* https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-look
* https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-menu
* https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-default-settings
* https://launchpad.net/carla
So, please take this as our cry for help to get these packages
updated and
included. I don't know how to do this, and I've never been shown
the
process. So, maybe my MOTU training sarts here.
Thank you for your time, and in advance for your help.
With my TB hat on, let me be direct: it is unacceptable for us to
have an
official Ubuntu flavor which has no uploaders. This is explicitly
called
out in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors:
Guidelines to become and remain a recognized flavor:
[...]
* One or more developer with upload rights.
Unfortunately, since it appears the DMB neither acted, nor
communicated with
the TB regarding their inaction, and since I also failed to follow
up to
make sure this was dealt with, we have now had *four* UbuntuStudio
releases (17.04, 17.10, 18.04, 18.10) which did not meet this policy.
I will say right now that we will not have a fifth.
Now as then, I do not presume to substitute my own judgement for the
DMB's
regarding whether any particular person should be given upload
rights; but
we do have a situation that needs to be dealt with rather urgently.
*Either* the UbuntuStudio community proposes, and the DMB ratifies,
ubuntustudio PPU rights for one or more of their devs; *or*,
UbuntuStudio
must not ship as a recognized flavor for Ubuntu 19.04.
Here is what I would ask of each of the parties on this thread:
- Erich, Ross: please resubmit ASAP for one or both of you an
application
to the DMB for PPU rights on the ubuntustudio packageset. (Given
Ross's
status as a Debian Developer, I would assume it would be easier
to get
him approved, but ultimately I think that's for you to decide.)
- DMB: please prioritize working with the members of the
UbuntuStudio team
to ensure timely feedback and timely decision-making so that
these PPU
applications have optimal chances of success in time for 19.04.
- fellow TB members: let's please discuss how we can sustainably
audit that
flavors are continuing to meet the requirements for recognition.
Thanks,
--
Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a
Free OS
Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the
world.
Ubuntu Developer
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