Re: [Ubuntu-tour] Advanced Section

Daniel Seemer Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:16:38 -0700

I want videos. So I Suggest
- Videos are started with a link (surrounded by a little explanation) on the bottom of several tour-pages.
- if you click, ubuntu-tour opens a local url in a new firefox-window.
- Videos are played in Flash-Format, because firefox 4 with webm-feature is still beta
- If ubuntu-tour is released for Natty, we can use the build in player

The flash player needs to be installed, therefore we have several possibilities:
- flashplayer is a dependency of ubuntu-tour package
- button in ubuntu-tour to install flash-player via atp
- tutorial in ubuntu-tour how to install flash-player
- trust firefox: firefox leads the user to install the flashplayer

Or:
- Don't include videos for the maverick release, because there won't be many people going through the tour.
- Therefore waiting for Natty which includes firefox 4. With natty we won't have any player problem

On 23.09.2010 08:26, Silas Lenz wrote:

Using the html5 video tag is possible.

Also playing from youtube is possible without flash, maybe it is even possible to use the webm version from youtube but i don't know.

I think we should use streaming, but make the tour usable without the videos.
On 23 September 2010 00:03, Daniel Seemer <[email protected]> wrote:
What about streaming Videos using popular internet video platforms? We can use html. Mayby the webkitview can handle html5 video-tags? Maybe there is a way to play videos from youtube without installed flashplayer?
I think wasting hundreds of megabytes of disk space for videos is silly if users never watch them.
Or there will be additional ubuntutour-screencasts-en packages for each language.

But using videos is a great idea!
On 22.09.2010 19:29, Ivo Reumkens wrote:
So each language need it's screenshots. Than I have a problem, because Dutch isn't included on the live-cd, so I need a DVD with all languages. And if you want videos, in all language to, then all videos are slightly different.

but here is another online screen application: http://www.screentoaster.com/

2010/9/22 Alexander Lancey <[email protected]>

We'll probably have a few vidoes by the finish.
Tour size we can probably handle. Most likely, the tour, or at least the images, will be downloaded upon install instead of pre-installed. We'll have to do something of the sort, since each language will need its screenshots in a package (ubuntu-tour-screenshots_es, ubuntu-tour-screenshots_fr, etc).

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM, K.de Jong <[email protected]> wrote:

I like the progress we have made already.

But, my initial thoughts for a tour application were some sort of
picture and video howto's.
Texts are always needed and pictures too.
but I do hope we can do some videos too.

Looking at the size of pictures we have already
I wonder if some of that can be made automatically,
this would reduce the amount of files in the package.
but this may be wishful thinking...

2010/9/22 Jason Cook <[email protected]>:

> I aggree that basics are important and if we don't have time for a proper
> advanced section, then we should wait.
> PS: I love the name Natty too
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Lancey <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think it will be a goal for Natty (I love that name). I would like to
>> see an advanced section eventually, but I think the basics are more
>> important.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:23 -0400, Jason Cook wrote:
>> > If including an advanced section is denied I will help you with
>> > creating the advanced section. This is something that I think would be
>> > very useful for some new users.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:36 PM, David Tigue <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I think an advanced section would be something to think about.
>> > Maybe not
>> > in the initial release, or the version on the live disk, but
>> > maybe
>> > something in the way of a plug-in that can be installed later
>> > from the
>> > repos. I would think a place for advanced users to be able to
>> > quick
>> > reference stuff like a simple samba/nfs/sftp setup, lamp
>> > setup, or maybe
>> > even something a little less advanced would be nice to have. I
>> > have
>> > always been real bad to forget advanced commands in the past.
>> > A place to
>> > look stuff up like that instead of doing a separate web search
>> > for
>> > anything I need would be a huge help. Think of it as a melting
>> > pot for
>> > all the on-line documents advanced users have to search for
>> > everyday.
>> > Maybe it could be totally separate from the Ubuntu-tour.
>> > Something like
>> > Ubuntu-advanced-tour. If you guys don't like the idea of
>> > something like
>> > that, then do I have permission to start something on the side
>> > for more
>> > advanced users, using some code from Ubuntu-tour ?
>> >
>> >
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