Thanks - you've been helpful. I'll get on there and make myself known

On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 21:03 +0000, Andy Trevor wrote:
> Toby Smithe wrote: 
> > On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 10:17 +0000, Andy Trevor wrote:
> >   
> > > Toby Smithe wrote: 
> > >     
> > > > Hi Phil,
> > > > 
> > > > I am all too keen to work with Becta. However, I feel that they should
> > > > at least allow me the simple courtesy of a hard-earned reply.
> > > >   
> > > >       
> > > Guys there is already channel set up with Becta.  Ian Lynch from
> > > SchoolForge UK meets with them on a regular basis.
> > >     
> > 
> > This is good to hear. What has been achieved so far through this
> > relationship?
> >   
> The profile of OSS has been raised but it is a case of slowly prodding
> away.  
> 
> Becta are aware of the benefits of using OSS but these things take
> time.
> 
> 
> >   
> > > Becta asked for a single point of contact to the OSS community to come
> > > from OSC or Schoolforge UK.  Ian was chosen due to his depth of
> > > knowledge in this area.
> > >     
> > 
> > I feel that a single point, whilst convenient, is fallible. The
> > community is so vast and varied. No matter how deep someone's knowledge
> > is, they cannot know everything. 
> >   
> 
> The single point of contact was at the request of Becta.  
> 
> I agree that all interests cannot be covered by one man, but that is
> what they wanted.  
> 
> Ian is a very knowledgeable man and has been in the education and OSS
> game for a long long time. 
> 
> For the moment I think the best idea is to get signed up on the
> Schoolforge mailing list and get involved with things that way.
> >   
> > > Co ordinating efforts through the Schoolforge mailing list may be the
> > > best option.
> > >     
> > > > On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 21:44 +0000, Phil Bull wrote:
> > > >   
> > > >       
> > > > > Hi Toby,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 20:16 +0000, Toby Smithe wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > >     
> > > > >         
> > > > > > I have been quite busy on the fight for free software for schools, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > am publishing any developments on that front at
> > > > > > http://tibsplace.co.uk/blog/index.php/category/free-software
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't really trust BECTA. They didn't reply to my completely 
> > > > > > serious
> > > > > > e-mail, so I just assume they are been pressurised into preferring
> > > > > > proprietary software. They could just have issued this statement to 
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > us content. I will again write to them, but until I receive a 
> > > > > > reply, I
> > > > > > have no idea why I should think they are trustworthy.
> > > > > >       
> > > > > >           
> > > > > I've been following some of your efforts, and it does seem as though
> > > > > you've just been sent stock responses by their PR department. This is
> > > > > unfortunate considering the effort you've obviously put into this, but
> > > > > it's something we need to confront.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think entering into a dialogue with BECTA will be necessary as a
> > > > > gateway to the LEAs (Local Education Authorities). A great deal of IT
> > > > > policy-making in schools rests with the LEAs, I believe, even if some
> > > > > schools choose not to follow their recommendations. FOSS-sympathetic
> > > > > LEAs would be able to provide resources and support on a level which
> > > > > could make the adoption of FOSS seem much more practical for a great
> > > > > deal of schools.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please take a look at this Becta press release [1], especially the 
> > > > > three
> > > > > reports in the 'Notes to Editors' section. I found them very
> > > > > enlightening; the biggest problem the schools studied seemed to come 
> > > > > up
> > > > > against was a lack of support from the LEA. Some LEAs even seemed to
> > > > > actively discourage open-source adoption:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "The LEA provides no ICT support to the school, and some animosity has
> > > > > grown over the issue of the school using OSS." [2]
> > > > > 
> > > > > By working with Becta, we could hopefully open a useful communication
> > > > > channel with the LEAs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Phil
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] - http://www.becta.org.uk/corporate/press_out.cfm?id=4681
> > > > > [2] - Open Source Software in Schools: A case study report [1] (Page 
> > > > > 6,
> > > > > Case Study 3, 'ICT in the school')
> > > > > 
> > > > >     
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