Ah right thanks for that. That kinda makes sense now. Can you remember  
how much it was to have the branding?

James

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On 31 May 2009, at 16:46, Eddie Bernard <edd...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> From: Paul Broadhead <pjbr...@twinmoons.clara.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than
>
>> Alan Pope wrote:
>>
>>> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM
>>> wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to
>>> Canonical for the use of the trademarked name. I believe there are
>>> also restrictions upon what you can do, for example you can't
>>> pre-install skype, but can pre-install some codec bundles (which are
>>> an additional license cost).
>>
>> I did not realise that was the case.  However, the figures would be  
>> very
>> useful to know; both for Ubuntu and for windows.  I wish companies  
>> could
>> be more open about the OS cost and stop trying to hide behind  
>> different
>> specifications and machines that cannot be compared.
>
> A while back, some of you may remember I contacted you all with
> respect to my business, and the prices for selling Ubuntu
> pre-installed desktop PCs. In response a number of posters suggested I
> get in touch with Canonical regarding whether there are royalty fees
> associated.
>
> They did eventually reply. Apologies, I meant to forward this to you
> all a long time ago. Here was the response:
>
> "In terms of selling PCs with Ubuntu preloaded, as Ubuntu is free
> software and free to download, you don't need a license from us in
> order to do this. However, if you want to use the Ubuntu logo on the
> PCs you sell, this falls under our Trademarks and that is a different
> matter.
>
> We only allow PCs that have been Ubuntu Certified or Ubuntu
> Compatibility tested to display the Ubuntu logo. There can be no
> indication on the PCs that you sell with Ubuntu preloaded that these
> have been certified to work with Ubuntu, if this is not the case.
>
> So you are perfectly welcome to sell PCs with Ubuntu preloaded, but
> just not to use our trademarks or branding in this regard."
>
> In other words, it's a question of branding, rather than getting
> permission to use the software. If you don't use the branding, you
> don't pay anything.
>
> Hope this is useful to you all.
>
> Eddie
>
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