Hi All On 29 April 2012 19:37, Barry Drake <ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 29/04/12 18:58, Alan Bell wrote: > >> On 29/04/12 18:55, Barry Drake wrote: >> >>> I've spent quite a bit of time on Ubuntu Help today >>> >> where exactly? >> > > Launchpad - at > :https://answers.launchpad.**net/ubuntu<https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu> > This is not somewhere I usually lurk but it was so overwhelmed that I > thought I'd put my two pence in. Most of the questions I dealt with were > after a clean install, and were fairly simple ones because the desktop is > so different. > > as the questions were overwhelming the regular folk so I took a few on >>> board. There are a vast number of folk who have virtually trashed their >>> system by trying to do an upgrade. >>> >> > it would be better to fix the problem >> > > I agree, but the problem is so widespread and well distributed that I > don't think it is going to get fixed. I think it is a product of the very > high level of change between the distributions. > > are these upgrades from 10.04 or 11.10? >>> >> > Both basically. > > What problems are people having? >> > > All manner of things varying from no control of sound, no sound at all, > Libreoffice not working, bookmarks missing - to be honest just about > everything you can think of. As well as that there were various crash > messages that nearly got fixed .... I saw some of this and mentioned it on > the list a few days ago. Upgrading to 12.04 is disastrous. I actually > wonder if anyone has succeeded. > > I'm replying to Barry because of his last remark, but I have read the discussion on backups, and I have to say that they are problematical for me, just because I have nowhere I can write my 19gb of /home to. So I have to risk it and try and get out of problems. So here is my experience of upgrading 4 machines, all from 11.10 to 12.04, in the order I did them: 1) Asus EEEPC 1015PEM Netbook. I used a live USB. I chose the 11.10 to 12.04 update. The upgrade crashed on me soon after choosing the flower as my picture (don't know if that was significant). I got the chance to do a bug report (from the live USB system) then I rebooted to the Netbook and got a terminal which did not accept any kind of login. Luckily, this machine has little data on it, so I rebooted to the live USB, saved the few files I had to the 4GB SD card and did a fresh install of 12.04. 2) Asus EEEPC original type with 4GB and 7" screen. This runs Lubuntu. As it has hardly any free space I used the Alternate ISO on a USB stick and did a successful 11.10 to 12.04 upgrade. 3) Acer Revo (forget which model, but it sits next to the TV as it has hdmi output) I used the live USB again and chose the 11.10 to 12.04 update. The upgrade was successful, if a bit nail bitingly slow at the end giving rise to some anxiety that it had stalled. A finer grained indication of progress would have been re-assuring. 4) HP Pavillion Desktop - my main PC I wanted use the live USB again but there was no 11.10 to 12.04 update offered. (Why?) So I chose the online upgrade. This went OK until a short way into the updating when the machine crashed (going into screensaver, I think), so I had to reboot it. I got to a sort of login screen, but I couldn't log in, so I switched to a terminal and finally got it completed from the command line. Was advised to do dkpg --configure -a then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f which did not work without the -f I have to admit that I half expected this machine to crash. It has been doing it regularly. But I'm glad I got out of it. I'm just waiting to find out what is broken. So that was my experience. Certainly not one I would want to put an Ubuntu rookie through. Tony
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