On 22/06/12 10:47, richard wrote: > On 22/06/12 10:08, paul sutton wrote: >> On 22/06/12 08:09, Chris Fox wrote: >>> On 22/06/12 07:38, richard wrote: >>>> On 21/06/12 17:47, john wrote: >>>>> Thought that this may be interesting : >>>>> >>>>> ww.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-to-bring-Ubuntu-laptops-to-850-retail-stores-in-India-1620657.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>> so why not sell them here too ? >>>> >>> From what I recall, they did for a while and it was a monumental >>> failure. Perhaps it was before its time, perhaps Dell didn't do a good >>> enough job of marketing it, but either way I think they did it for a >>> while and then binned the idea. >>> >>> Personally I'd like to see someone try it again. The big stumbling >>> block, I think, isn't telling Joe Public that Ubuntu is better than >>> Windows: They can figure that out for themselves, and if they can't >>> then >>> maybe for them Ubuntu /isn't/ better. >>> >>> What Dell, or PC World, or whoever tries this at a national level needs >>> to educate your average home user about is that Ubuntu is different, >>> and >>> isn't compatible with Windows, and why. I vaguely recall stories from >>> the last time someone tried selling pre-loaded Linux laptops to Joe >>> Public that a number of users were returning them as "faulty" because >>> their Windows software didn't work. >>> >>> Good luck to the chap who posted to this list a few days ago trying to >>> do the same thing - I hope it's a big success. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >> I think given when I ask people what Operating system they use they say >> Windows and some struggle to then tell me what version of windows they >> are running, this is going to be a real struggle. >> >> I think the Raspberry Pi may perhaps suffer the same fate, illiterate >> adults will struggle with them while children and computer literate >> adults will probably understand what is going on and thrive to a point, >> then be frustrated at the illiteracy of adults who are then unable to >> help them progress further and what is worse they won't admit they are >> clueless on the topic. >> >> It won't fail per-se just highlight how bad things have got with regard >> to peoples technical literacy. >> >> Going back on topic the biggest fail was putting linpus on netbooks, a >> lot of Linux users hated it, and it really gave a bad impression as to >> what Linux is. As for the impression given to non linux users it was >> probably enough to really put people off. >> >> For this to work you NEED local support and this is hard to get, >> people support windows and know windows and can fix most issues, >> fixing issues with ubuntu does require the same level of knowledge which >> for the avg user is lacking, >> >> Paul >> > I would be happy if they sold them on line with a warning that you > would get no software support. But last time i asked one of the > salespeople that pop up when you visit their site I was told "we > don't do that", only a few weeks ago. > I guess people EXPECT support, and if you offer something with no support people won't bother, or ask why.
If i manage to get in to a school as a Teaching assistant I feel i can make a difference and the fact I know Linux, The rasp PI uses Linux and the curriculum is changing to cover computer programming I really hope that will be my foot in the door. As I have both technical knowledge and I am good with children which is actually kind of rare or seems to be, I just lack the ability to sell my self in an effective way. Paul -- -- http://drupal.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/