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On 2017-05-08T21:25:01+00:00 Matt wrote:

laptop: Lenovo T460P

O/S: fedora 25, fully updated

BIOS setting: Touchpad: off
// already filed a bug with Lenovo as a BIOS error

gnome-control-center mouse: Touchpad: off

# libinput-debug-events 
-event2   DEVICE_ADDED     Power Button                      seat0 default 
group1  cap:k
-event7   DEVICE_ADDED     Video Bus                         seat0 default 
group2  cap:k
-event6   DEVICE_ADDED     Video Bus                         seat0 default 
group2  cap:k
-event1   DEVICE_ADDED     Sleep Button                      seat0 default 
group3  cap:k
-event4   DEVICE_ADDED     Yubico Yubico Yubikey II          seat0 default 
group4  cap:k
-event10  DEVICE_ADDED     Integrated Camera                 seat0 default 
group5  cap:k
-event3   DEVICE_ADDED     AT Translated Set 2 keyboard      seat0 default 
group6  cap:k
-event5   DEVICE_ADDED     SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad        seat0 default 
group7  cap:pg  size 100x58mm tap(dl off) left scroll-nat scroll-2fg-edge 
click-buttonareas-clickfinger dwt-on
-event8   DEVICE_ADDED     TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint             seat0 default 
group8  cap:p left scroll-nat scroll-button
-event9   DEVICE_ADDED     ThinkPad Extra Buttons            seat0 default 
group9  cap:k
-event5   POINTER_AXIS      +2.79s      vert 3.14* horiz 0.00 (finger)
 event5   GESTURE_SWIPE_BEGIN  +4.04s   3
 event5   GESTURE_SWIPE_UPDATE  +4.04s  3  0.00/ 1.87 ( 0.00/15.75 
unaccelerated)


I'm assuming that when I touch the touchpad, this should NOT happen.

There is a bigger picture here and that is when my palm rests too heavy
on the touchpad, it messes with the clicking of my mouse.  I'll grab
tabs and scroll bars and won't let go until I click on them again.

I can reproduce this by putting 3 fingers on the touchpad and clicking
on a scoll bar or tab and it will start messing up in short order.

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On 2017-05-09T02:42:33+00:00 Peter wrote:

libinput-debug-events is unrelated to the gnome session, it creates a
new context and the gnome settings have no effect on it.

is this in an X session? If so, what does xinput list-props "SynPS/2
Synaptics TouchPad" show after disabling the touchpad in gnome?

for the palm issues, etc. please file a separate bug, thanks.

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On 2017-05-09T12:45:38+00:00 Matt wrote:

Yes, this in an X session.

$ xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
unable to find device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad

will be filing seperate bug for other issues.

thanks.

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On 2017-05-09T22:48:56+00:00 Peter wrote:

run xinput list to find the device name, I wonder if I mistyped
anything. then substitute the device name with the one for the touchpad.
if you see devices like "wayland pointer" etc, then you're under
wayland, in which case the xinput approach won't work. log out and back
in as Gnome on Xorg on the user's login screen (click the gear icon),
then see if you can reproduce it there.

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On 2017-05-10T00:25:51+00:00 Matt wrote:

$ loginctl
   SESSION        UID USER             SEAT
        c1         42 gdm              seat0
         2       1000 username         seat0


$ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=x11

$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech Logitech USB Optical Mouse       id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=16   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                     id=17   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Logitech USB Keyboard                     id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Logitech USB Keyboard                     id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Yubico Yubico Yubikey II                  id=12   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                         id=14   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=15   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                    id=18   [slave  keyboard (3)]


$ xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
        Device Enabled (141):   1
        Coordinate Transformation Matrix (143): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 
0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
        Device Accel Profile (272):     0
        Device Accel Constant Deceleration (273):       1.000000
        Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (274):       1.000000
        Device Accel Velocity Scaling (275):    10.000000
        Device Product ID (265):        2, 7
        Device Node (264):      "/dev/input/event6"
        Evdev Axis Inversion (302):     0, 0
        Evdev Axis Calibration (303):   <no items>
        Evdev Axes Swap (304):  0
        Axis Labels (305):      "Abs MT Position X" (299), "Abs MT Position Y" 
(300), "Abs MT Pressure" (301), "Abs Tool Width" (298), "None" (0), "None" (0), 
"None" (0)
        Button Labels (306):    "Button Left" (144), "Button Unknown" (294), 
"Button Unknown" (294), "Button Wheel Up" (147), "Button Wheel Down" (148)
        Evdev Scrolling Distance (307): 0, 0, 0
        Evdev Middle Button Emulation (308):    0
        Evdev Middle Button Timeout (309):      50
        Evdev Middle Button Button (310):       2
        Evdev Third Button Emulation (311):     0
        Evdev Third Button Emulation Timeout (312):     1000
        Evdev Third Button Emulation Button (313):      3
        Evdev Third Button Emulation Threshold (314):   20
        Evdev Wheel Emulation (315):    0
        Evdev Wheel Emulation Axes (316):       0, 0, 4, 5
        Evdev Wheel Emulation Inertia (317):    10
        Evdev Wheel Emulation Timeout (318):    200
        Evdev Wheel Emulation Button (319):     4
        Evdev Drag Lock Buttons (320):  0

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On 2017-05-10T04:38:15+00:00 Peter wrote:

You're using the evdev driver and that usually means that the touchpad
uses the synaptics driver. Both are effectively deprecated now, and
gnome has dropped support for those so the gnome checkbox does nothing
but look pretty.

Not sure why you're using evdev for the touchpad, do you have xorg-x11
-drv-libinput installed? Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for any leftover
snippets, remove any mate or cinnamon packages if you have any.

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On 2017-05-10T08:56:24+00:00 Peter wrote:

also, is this still an issue now that you tried out 1.7.2? (see bug
#1433033)

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On 2017-05-10T12:12:59+00:00 Matt wrote:

I pulled the latest libinput out of rawhide.  I don't see 1.7.2 as you
mentioned.  am I missing something?

# rpm -qa |grep libinput
libinput-1.7.1-4.fc27.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-libinput-0.25.1-1.fc27.x86_64


# rpm -qa |grep synaptic
#

# rpm -qa |grep evdev
libevdev-1.5.6-1.fc25.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.10.5-1.fc25.x86_64


# rpm -e libevdev xorg-x11-drv-evdev
error: Failed dependencies:
        libevdev.so.2()(64bit) is needed by (installed) 
libinput-1.7.1-4.fc27.x86_64
        libevdev.so.2(LIBEVDEV_1)(64bit) is needed by (installed) 
libinput-1.7.1-4.fc27.x86_64

# ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
00-keyboard.conf

Problem exists in both wayland and X11.

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On 2017-05-15T01:22:23+00:00 Peter wrote:

(In reply to Matt Jamison from comment #7)
> I pulled the latest libinput out of rawhide.  I don't see 1.7.2 as you
> mentioned.  am I missing something?

should definitely be there, maybe some mirror issue?
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=888012

> # rpm -e libevdev xorg-x11-drv-evdev
> error: Failed dependencies:
>       libevdev.so.2()(64bit) is needed by (installed) 
> libinput-1.7.1-4.fc27.x86_64
>       libevdev.so.2(LIBEVDEV_1)(64bit) is needed by (installed)
> libinput-1.7.1-4.fc27.x86_64

libevdev is a low-level library that libinput uses as well, if anything only
remove xorg-x11-drv-evdev. but witout any config snippet you should be able
to just leave it there, libinput will override it anyway.
 
> Problem exists in both wayland and X11.

in the X session: do xinput watch-props "touchpad device name" and
toggle the touchpad off setting in gnome, does anything change?

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On 2017-05-17T16:08:36+00:00 Matt wrote:

problem still persists with no change.

putting 3 fingers on the disabled touchpad still messes up clicking.

$ rpm -qa |grep libinput
libinput-1.7.2-2.fc26.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-libinput-0.25.1-1.fc27.x86_64

$ rpm -qa |grep evdev
libevdev-1.5.7-1.fc27.x86_64

$ loginctl 
   SESSION        UID USER             SEAT            
        c1         42 gdm              seat0           
         2       1000 jamisonm         seat0     


$ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=wayland

WITH TOUCHPAD DISABLED:
$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ xwayland-pointer:13                       id=6    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ xwayland-relative-pointer:13              id=7    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ xwayland-keyboard:13                      id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]


WITH TOUCHPAD ENABLED:
$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ xwayland-pointer:13                       id=6    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ xwayland-relative-pointer:13              id=7    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ xwayland-keyboard:13                      id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]


I don't see a touchpad device name to run xinput watch-props on.

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On 2017-05-23T00:23:19+00:00 Peter wrote:

You're running under wayland, where xinput will have no real effect. You
need to start an X session to be able to debug this.

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On 2017-05-23T17:54:17+00:00 Vladyslav wrote:

I can confirm this bug on the same configuration (Fedora 25 and T460p).

The only way to really turn off the touchpad is to issue

$ xinput set-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' 'Device Enabled' 0

I'm using X session (not Wayland), so for me this always works.

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On 2017-05-23T18:34:48+00:00 Matt wrote:

$ loginctl 
   SESSION        UID USER             SEAT            
         2       1000 <username>       seat0           
        c1         42 gdm              seat0  

  $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=x11


$ xinput set-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' 'Device Enabled' 0

$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                     id=14   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Yubico Yubico Yubikey II                  id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                         id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=12   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                    id=15   [slave  keyboard (3)]

Problem still persists.

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On 2017-05-24T08:57:25+00:00 Vladyslav wrote:

Strange. Here is what I have

$ loginctl

   SESSION        UID USER             SEAT            
         2       1000 <username>       seat0           
        c1         42 gdm              seat0  

$ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=x11

$ uname -a
Linux elektron 4.10.15-200.fc25.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 8 18:46:06 UTC 2017 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ xinput list

⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                     id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=11   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                         id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                    id=12   [slave  keyboard (3)]

$ sudo dmidecode -t system | head -n 14

# dmidecode 3.0
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
        Manufacturer: LENOVO
        Product Name: 20FW000DPG
        Version: ThinkPad T460p
        Serial Number: -----------
        UUID: ------------------------------------
        Wake-up Type: Power Switch
        SKU Number: LENOVO_MT_20FW_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p
        Family: ThinkPad T460p


$ sudo dmidecode -t bios

# dmidecode 3.0
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
        Vendor: LENOVO
        Version: R07ET73W (2.13 )
        Release Date: 12/20/2016
        Address: 0xE0000
        Runtime Size: 128 kB
        ROM Size: 16384 kB
        Characteristics:
                PCI is supported
                PNP is supported
                BIOS is upgradeable
                BIOS shadowing is allowed
                Boot from CD is supported
                Selectable boot is supported
                EDD is supported
                3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
                Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
                8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
                Serial services are supported (int 14h)
                Printer services are supported (int 17h)
                CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
                ACPI is supported
                USB legacy is supported
                BIOS boot specification is supported
                Targeted content distribution is supported
                UEFI is supported
        BIOS Revision: 2.13
        Firmware Revision: 1.4

Handle 0x0024, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
        Language Description Format: Abbreviated
        Installable Languages: 1
                en-US
        Currently Installed Language: en-US


Notice that I have my touchpad enabled in BIOS (my trackpoint has a faulty left 
button, so I'm waiting
for a replacement and currently need to use the touchpad when there is no 
external mouse around)

This is the output of xinput list-props when the touchpad is enabled

$ xinput list-props 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'

Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
        Device Enabled (139):   1
        Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 
0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
        libinput Tapping Enabled (276): 1
        libinput Tapping Enabled Default (277): 0
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (278):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (279):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (280):       0
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (281):       0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (282):  1, 0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (283):  1, 0
        libinput Accel Speed (284):     0.000000
        libinput Accel Speed Default (285):     0.000000
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (286):       1
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (287):       0
        libinput Send Events Modes Available (261):     1, 1
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (262):        0, 0
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (263):        0, 0
        libinput Left Handed Enabled (288):     0
        libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (289):     0
        libinput Scroll Methods Available (290):        1, 1, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled (291):   1, 0, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (292):   1, 0, 0
        libinput Click Methods Available (293): 1, 1
        libinput Click Method Enabled (294):    0, 1
        libinput Click Method Enabled Default (295):    1, 0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (296):        0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (297):        0
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (298):    1
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (299):    1
        Device Node (264):      "/dev/input/event5"
        Device Product ID (265):        2, 7
        libinput Drag Lock Buttons (300):       <no items>
        libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (301):       1

and this is when it is disabled (via the command I posted earlier)

$ xinput list-props 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'

Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
        Device Enabled (139):   0
        Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 
0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
        libinput Tapping Enabled (276): 1
        libinput Tapping Enabled Default (277): 0
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (278):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (279):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (280):       0
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (281):       0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (282):  1, 0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (283):  1, 0
        libinput Accel Speed (284):     0.000000
        libinput Accel Speed Default (285):     0.000000
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (286):       1
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (287):       0
        libinput Send Events Modes Available (261):     1, 1
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (262):        0, 0
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (263):        0, 0
        libinput Left Handed Enabled (288):     0
        libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (289):     0
        libinput Scroll Methods Available (290):        1, 1, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled (291):   1, 0, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (292):   1, 0, 0
        libinput Click Methods Available (293): 1, 1
        libinput Click Method Enabled (294):    0, 1
        libinput Click Method Enabled Default (295):    1, 0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (296):        0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (297):        0
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (298):    1
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (299):    1
        Device Node (264):      "/dev/input/event5"
        Device Product ID (265):        2, 7
        libinput Drag Lock Buttons (300):       <no items>
        libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (301):       1


Could it be that our touchpads have different firmware versions? What I
have is

$ journalctl --no-page -b | grep 'Touchpad model'

Mai 20 01:38:39 elektron kernel: psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad
model: 1, fw: 8.2, id: 0x1e2b1, caps:
0xf006a3/0x943300/0x12e800/0x10000, board id: 3053, fw id: 2010421

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On 2017-05-24T13:53:46+00:00 Matt wrote:

Everything is about the same.  I have an updated BIOS, but the real question is:
can you replicate my issue.  The issue isn't that the touchpad is enabled or 
disabled.  I can't click or use it to scroll at all, aka: disabled.

My issue is that when I out 3 fingers on the touchpad then go click on
something.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes it
acts as if I just grabbed whatever it is that I clicked on.

I replicate this by clicking on a scroll bar of a browser or a terminal
window while I have 3 finger placed on the disabled trackpad.

You may ask: why in the world would someone ever put 3 fingers on a
trackpad then try to click?  Well, I have larger hands and often times,
part of my hand rests on the trackpad and REALLY screws up things.

Please let me know if you can replicate this on your t460p.

$ loginctl
   SESSION        UID USER             SEAT            
        c1         42 gdm              seat0           
         2       1000 <username>       seat0     

$ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=x11

$ uname -a
Linux t460p 4.10.16-200.fc25.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 15 15:19:52 UTC 2017 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                     id=14   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                     id=15   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Yubico Yubico Yubikey II                  id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                         id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=12   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                    id=16   [slave  keyboard (3)]

# dmidecode -t system | head -n 14
# dmidecode 3.0
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
        Manufacturer: LENOVO
        Product Name: 20FXS0BB0U
        Version: ThinkPad T460p
        Serial Number: PF0N936H
        UUID: AD22BA4C-2708-11B2-A85C-CFCA463AAE82
        Wake-up Type: Power Switch
        SKU Number: LENOVO_MT_20FX_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p
        Family: ThinkPad T460p

# dmidecode -t bios
# dmidecode 3.0
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
        Vendor: LENOVO
        Version: R07ET75W (2.15 )
        Release Date: 02/21/2017
        Address: 0xE0000
        Runtime Size: 128 kB
        ROM Size: 16384 kB
        Characteristics:
                PCI is supported
                PNP is supported
                BIOS is upgradeable
                BIOS shadowing is allowed
                Boot from CD is supported
                Selectable boot is supported
                EDD is supported
                3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
                Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
                8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
                Serial services are supported (int 14h)
                Printer services are supported (int 17h)
                CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
                ACPI is supported
                USB legacy is supported
                BIOS boot specification is supported
                Targeted content distribution is supported
                UEFI is supported
        BIOS Revision: 2.15
        Firmware Revision: 1.4

Handle 0x0024, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
        Language Description Format: Abbreviated
        Installable Languages: 1
                en-US
        Currently Installed Language: en-US

$ xinput list-props 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'
Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
        Device Enabled (139):   0
        Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 
0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
        libinput Tapping Enabled (274): 0
        libinput Tapping Enabled Default (275): 0
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (276):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (277):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (278):       0
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (279):       0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (280):  1, 0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (281):  1, 0
        libinput Accel Speed (282):     0.000000
        libinput Accel Speed Default (283):     0.000000
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (284):       0
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (285):       0
        libinput Send Events Modes Available (259):     1, 1
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (260):        1, 0
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (261):        0, 0
        libinput Left Handed Enabled (286):     1
        libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (287):     0
        libinput Scroll Methods Available (288):        1, 1, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled (289):   0, 0, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (290):   1, 0, 0
        libinput Click Methods Available (291): 1, 1
        libinput Click Method Enabled (292):    0, 0
        libinput Click Method Enabled Default (293):    1, 0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (294):        0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (295):        0
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (296):    1
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (297):    1
        Device Node (262):      "/dev/input/event7"
        Device Product ID (263):        2, 7
        libinput Drag Lock Buttons (298):       <no items>
        libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (299):       1

# rpm -qa |grep libinput
libinput-1.7.2-2.fc26.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-libinput-0.25.1-1.fc27.x86_64

# rpm -qa |grep evdev
libevdev-1.5.7-1.fc27.x86_64

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On 2017-05-24T16:02:34+00:00 Vladyslav wrote:

Ok, now I see your problem, To be honest, so far I never
tried to put three fingers on the disabled touchpad and then
issue a click using the trackpoint or an external mouse.

I did it right now and it behaves exactly the way you 
wrote: "Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes
it acts as if I just grabbed whatever it is that I clicked on."

So yes, I can reproduce this on my T460p.

Now that I payed more attention to it, it appears that when I 
use the trackpoint (I'm left-handed), my hand always floats above
the trackpad but never lies directly on it. For the record, I also
have larger hands (but perhaps not as large as yours). I guess this
is the reason why I never encountered this issue. Of course, the
hand position is always a very individual thing, so there are definitely
no "right" or "wrong" ways to use the trackpoint...

In any case, it is weird that that the touchpad input is still somehow
evaluated once it was explicitly disabled. I don't think that this 
is how it is supposed to be.

Having said that, I guess part of the issue is that on ThinkPads in general,
the touchpad and the trackpoint are not two separate entities but rather
one piece of hardware. For example, on a T460p the signal from the trackpoint 
stick is transferred via the cable that connects the keyboard to the mainboard.
However, the signal from the trackpoint buttons is routed via the same cable
that connects the touchpad to the mobo.

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On 2017-06-02T02:02:11+00:00 Peter wrote:

There are a few issues here that are tangentially related. Please don't
submit anymore dmidecode data, it only makes it harder to find the
signal in all the noise.

First: libinput-debug-events sits on the side of the X session, it sees
the same events but behaves differently because it doesn't see the
configuration from X. Think of it of running tail -f on the same file
twice, the two instances see the same data but can behave differently
depending on what other options are applied.

libinput-debug-events is useful to tell when a bug is caused by
libinput, but it doesn't always help with X-specific bugs.

To debug this, we will need an X session and the output of variuos
xinput commands, anything else won't help much.

Ok, now let's continue: 
        Device Enabled (139):   0

that means the device is disabled at the X level and removes it from the
fd set for libinput. The server won't forward any events from a device,
even if it did send events to begin with (which it shouldn't, because it
was removed). Judging by comment 11, this seems to work.

GNOME toggles the "libinput Send Events Mode Enabled" property to 1 0
(== disabled). That works here (F26 though) but I'll need a confirmation
from you that it does that. If not, then this is a gnome issue.

xinput watch-props "Synaptics...", then toggle the checkbox in the
control center and see if the value changes.

If it *does* change to 1 0 but the touchpad still generates events, please run
xinput test-xi2 and see what events are actually generated on the X level by 
the touchpad (keep an eye on the device id in (parenthesis) to identify the 
touchpad). Let me know how you go with these.

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On 2017-06-05T19:51:54+00:00 Matt wrote:

All touchpad options aren't in the control panel anymore.  I just have:
General: primary button -> left/right
Mouse: Mouse speed, Natural Scrolling: on/off

xinput test-xi2 produces the same results.  I put 3 fingers on the
touchpad which doesn't register anything in the logs, but when I go to
click the mouse button, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and
sometimes it register the button press but not release.

I'm having a hard time trying to get data when nothing is being
registered in any of the logs.  It's simply doesn't register any click
when I press the mouse button.

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On 2017-06-06T03:11:22+00:00 Peter wrote:

you're still using the synaptics driver? if you do an xinput list-props
"device name", are the devices prefixed with Synaptics? or still Evdev
like in comment #4? If so, you need to switch to the libinput driver.
see comment #5. If you have ever had a mate or cinnamon package
installed, that could be the reason, they unconditionally overwrite (or
used to overwrite) the normal configuration. Look for any symlinks in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

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On 2017-06-06T12:58:06+00:00 Matt wrote:

$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                     id=15   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Yubico Yubico Yubikey II                  id=10   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                         id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=12   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                    id=16   [slave  keyboard (3)]


$ xinput list-props 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'
Device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad':
        Device Enabled (139):   0
        Coordinate Transformation Matrix (141): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 
0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
        libinput Tapping Enabled (274): 0
        libinput Tapping Enabled Default (275): 0
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (276):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (277):    1
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (278):       0
        libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (279):       0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (280):  1, 0
        libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (281):  1, 0
        libinput Accel Speed (282):     0.000000
        libinput Accel Speed Default (283):     0.000000
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (284):       0
        libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (285):       0
        libinput Send Events Modes Available (259):     1, 1
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (260):        1, 0
        libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (261):        0, 0
        libinput Left Handed Enabled (286):     1
        libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (287):     0
        libinput Scroll Methods Available (288):        1, 1, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled (289):   0, 0, 0
        libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (290):   1, 0, 0
        libinput Click Methods Available (291): 1, 1
        libinput Click Method Enabled (292):    0, 0
        libinput Click Method Enabled Default (293):    1, 0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (294):        0
        libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (295):        0
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (296):    1
        libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (297):    1
        Device Node (262):      "/dev/input/event7"
        Device Product ID (263):        2, 7
        libinput Drag Lock Buttons (298):       <no items>
        libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (299):       1

$ rpm -qa |grep -i mate

$ rpm -qa |grep -i cinnamon

$ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
00-keyboard.conf

$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf 
# Read and parsed by systemd-localed. It's probably wise not to edit this file
# manually too freely.
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "system-keyboard"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

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On 2017-06-13T02:54:39+00:00 Peter wrote:

well, that's me out of ideas then. libinput driver is being used, I
don't know why gnome wouldn't show the touchpad configuration. GNOME
*does* disable the touchpad, see libinput Send Events Mode Enabled
(260):      1, 0 which indicates that at least mutter is aware of the
libinput driver.

With the property set, libinput *should* ignore the touchpad events, I
don't know why it doesn't. And we don't have any other debugging tools
yet for that specific use-case. Sorry, I really don't know how to debug
this further remotely.

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On 2017-08-24T18:06:17+00:00 Michael wrote:

I'm also encountering this issue on current F26+Wayland / Thinkpad P50.
Appears to happen on all power state changes, cycling the touchpad
enable via gnome settings panel/controls temporarily resets the
touchpad.

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On 2017-09-05T06:44:28+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.1-4.fc26 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 26.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-9877387cfd

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On 2017-09-05T09:35:47+00:00 Peter wrote:

*** Bug 1475229 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2017-09-05T22:36:13+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.1-4.fc27 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 27.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-d3c039ae6b

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On 2017-09-06T15:11:08+00:00 Matt wrote:

(In reply to Fedora Update System from comment #24)
> libinput-1.8.1-4.fc26 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 26.
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-9877387cfd

Behavior has not changed with latest libinput:
$ rpm -q libinput
libinput-1.8.1-4.fc26.x86_64

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On 2017-09-06T22:28:50+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.1-4.fc26 has been pushed to the Fedora 26 testing repository. If 
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here: 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-9877387cfd

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On 2017-09-07T09:03:16+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.2-1.fc27 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 27.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-79e946722c

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On 2017-09-07T14:33:47+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.2-1.fc27 has been pushed to the Fedora 27 testing repository. If 
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here: 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-79e946722c

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On 2017-09-07T22:44:06+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.2-1.fc26 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 26.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-bbb2e09649

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On 2017-09-07T22:50:01+00:00 Peter wrote:

Matt - you did reboot after updating? The bug I found and fixed was
definitely a libinput bug, so if it's still there there must be
something else that I haven't spotted yet.

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On 2017-09-08T09:38:07+00:00 Stefan wrote:

Nice work, thanks!  libinput-1.8.2-1.fc26 has fixed the problem on my X1
Carbon.  The touchpad stays correctly disabled after opening the lid
now.

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On 2017-09-08T22:23:43+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.2-1.fc26 has been pushed to the Fedora 26 testing repository. If 
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here: 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-bbb2e09649

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On 2017-09-09T23:54:51+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.2-1.fc26 has been pushed to the Fedora 26 stable
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this
bug report.

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On 2017-09-12T14:41:06+00:00 Rui wrote:

*** Bug 1490127 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2017-09-20T15:21:48+00:00 Matt wrote:

(In reply to Peter Hutterer from comment #32)
> Matt - you did reboot after updating? The bug I found and fixed was
> definitely a libinput bug, so if it's still there there must be something
> else that I haven't spotted yet.

My apologies for the late response.

Yes, I have rebooted and there is no change.  I also got the latest BIOS
update from Lenovo and installed that.

The problem still persists and the mouse still works at the login screen
even though it's turned off in the BIOS.

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On 2017-09-30T06:20:17+00:00 Fedora wrote:

libinput-1.8.2-1.fc27 has been pushed to the Fedora 27 stable
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this
bug report.

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       Status: Unknown => Fix Released

** Changed in: libinput (Fedora)
   Importance: Unknown => Undecided

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