(In reply to comment #6)
> Userspace is not a problem here, many distributions have GL implementation
> switch tools already.
> 

Userspace is the problem.

> 
> The problem is that xf86-video-ati is built with KMS and radeon.ko loads with
> modeset=1 but still, X fails to load due to the initialization (bug?) issue
> reported by the OP. Restarting X fixes the problem. I do think there is
> something to fix here and it would be nice to at least fix this chicken/egg
> issue.

You need to have the kernel module loaded before starting X.  The same
is true of other KMS drivers (intel, nouveau, etc.).  If the drm is not
loaded, the ddx assumes UMS and tries to load the drm.  If it loads in
KMS mode, you don't want two drivers handling the same hw, so the ddx
bails to prevent that.  If you try and load the drm from X and assume
that the kernel is in KMS mode, you break old systems with old kernels
that don't support KMS.  The other problem with having the ddx load the
drm for KMS mode is that with KMS, the drm handles all of the chip init.
With UMS when you load the drm in UMS mode, the kernel module  doesn't
do anything at load time; it just waits until userspace inits the hw and
actually decides to use the drm.  With KMS, we have no way of knowing
when the KMS drm has finished loading or initializing the hw so we may
end up trying to use the KMS drm before it's properly loaded.  It's not
a configuration we want to support.

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  [RV635] No hardware acceleration on ATI Radeon 3650 HD using 'radeon'
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