linux只不过是个幌子，不过是某些人想捞钱吧 2008/12/8 ne yo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 新闻的本质混淆视听. > 这件事的关注度已经很高了. > > 2008/12/8 gogo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> 呵呵，你说的这种情况是有可能的，但是我们需要确切的证据来证明到底是强迫还是仅仅推荐，所以我的看法是看看事情如何发展。如果事实确实是政府推荐两家就只能选这两家，外媒过几天再来引用本list的某些言论说中国用户对红旗的评价是"敲诈，明目张胆的抢劫"的时候，我们也无话可说了。 >> >> 2008/12/8 li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> HK你好。请问只推荐两种是不是就是限定死了选择范围？小学时候选班干部，老师设定好了候选人，左右你得选哪几个～～这不叫强迫还叫自由么？ >>> >>> 2008/12/8 sol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> > Hi,everyone! >>> > >>> > 这简直就是敲诈呀？明目张胆的抢劫。。。。 >>> > >>> > 原文-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > -- ------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > Wyatt.Wang 写道: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2008/12/5 苏丹 <damn.su <http://damn.su>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> >>> >> >>> >> 官商勾结，赤裸裸的讹诈，无怪乎官员不承认其他发行版，这个事早已与 >>> >> linux无关，与自由软件和开源世界无关了。 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 这个事在对国内的Linux推广应用来说，可算件坏事了。 >>> >> >>> >> 红旗好像和政府一起搞的吧，搞成这样了。 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2008/12/5 wyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>> >> >>> >> 红旗linux真的要卖这个价吗？如果真的，那太让人吃惊了。 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> wyatt 通过 Google 阅读器发送给您的内容： >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 世界上推销Linux的最恶劣方式 >>> >> < >>> http://item.feedsky.com/%7Efeedsky/yeeyan-tech/%7E6924333/145541684/5032246/1/item.html<http://item.feedsky.com/~feedsky/yeeyan-tech/~6924333/145541684/5032246/1/item.html> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> 于 08-12-4 通过 译言- 电脑/网络/数码科技 >>> >> <http://www.yeeyan.com> 作者：后溪金 >>> >> >>> >> 原文作者：Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols >>> >> 原文链接：The world's worst way to market Linux >>> >> < >>> http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_worlds_worst_way_to_market_linux> >>> >> 译者：后溪金 <http://www.yeeyan.com/space/show/20180> >>> >> >>> >> At first, it sounds like a good idea. Nanchang, the capital of >>> >> China's eastern Jiangxi province, is requiring Internet cafe >>> >> operators to replace pirated server software >>> >> < >>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9122159 >>> > >>> >> with legal copies of Red Flag Linux >>> >> <http://www.redflag-linux.com/eindex.html> or Windows Server. >>> >> What's not to like? It's estimated that China has an 82% >>> >> software piracy rate. Getting businesses to go legal with a >>> >> native Chinese Linux sounded like a win to me. Until, I saw >>> >> the Red Flag Linux price tag: 5,000 yuan, that's $725 U.S. >>> >> That's way over the line for a small Chinese business. >>> >> >>> >> 当初，这听起来像一个好主意。中国东部江西省省会南昌市要求网吧经 >>> >> 营者使用红旗Linux或Windows服务器的合法拷贝，以取代盗版的服务器 >>> >> 软件。这有什么不同吗？据估计，中国软件盗版率为82％。让企业走正 >>> >> 道使用中国本地Linux对我来说就像赢得一场比赛。直到我发现红旗 >>> >> Linux的标价是：5000元即725美元为止。那远远超过一家小型中国企业 >>> >> 的界线。 >>> >> >>> >> Nanchang has about 600 Internet cafes for its approximately >>> >> 4-million citizens. In China, for most people, Internet cafes >>> >> are still the way they use to connect with the Internet. China >>> >> made be home for Lenovo <http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/> and >>> >> many other PC vendors, but you're not going to find PCs and >>> >> broadband in most homes. >>> >> >>> >> 南昌大约有600家网吧服务近四百万市民。在中国，对于大多数人来 >>> >> 说，网吧仍然是他们用来连接互联网的方式。虽然联想集团和许多其他 >>> >> PC厂商的产地就在中国，但别想在大多数家庭中找到电脑和宽带。 >>> >> >>> >> That said, no one's getting rich from the Internet cafes. >>> >> They're small mom and pop businesses. They can't afford $725 >>> >> for an operating system and they're letting the officials know >>> >> about it. Unfortunately, it's not doing much good. One said, >>> >> "When you talk to officials from the Culture Department, they >>> >> tell you, 'If you're willing to pay, pay; if not, you have the >>> >> option not to pay.' Hearing words like that turns your heart >>> >> cold. We really can't make a living." In other words, you can >>> >> either pay to play or you can go out of business. >>> >> >>> >> 据说，没有人从网吧致富。这些小企业是家庭作坊。他们付不起725美 >>> >> 元购买操作系统，而且他们正在让官员了解这一点。遗憾的是，没有多 >>> >> 少效果。有一位说，"当你和文化部门的官员谈论时，他们告诉你，'如 >>> >> 果你愿意付钱，就给；不然，你可以选择不付钱。'听到那样的话，心 >>> >> 都变冷。我们真的无法赚钱过日子。"换句话说，不是付钱营业，就是 >>> >> 关门大吉。 >>> >> >>> >> Why not use another Linux? The local Culture Department, which >>> >> is in charge of this new initiative, won't accept other Linux >>> >> distributions. Nor, for that matter, it seems, will they >>> >> believe Internet cafe owners who insist that they have legal >>> >> copies of Windows. >>> >> >>> >> 为什么不用其他的Linux？当地负责这一新举措的文化部门不愿接受其 >>> >> 他Linux发行版。就事论事，似乎他们也不相信网吧业主坚称他们拥有 >>> >> 合法的Windows拷贝。 >>> >> >>> >> This sounds to me like a straight-forward shakedown. I have no >>> >> doubt that many of the cafes are using illegal software. That >>> >> said, the government should be giving them the option of going >>> >> with an affordable and legal Linux instead of insisting that >>> >> they pay a premium price for a specific distribution. >>> >> >>> >> 对我来说，这听起来简直就是敲诈。我毫不怀疑，许多网吧正在使用非 >>> >> 法软件。这就是说，政府应该让他们去选择一个负担得起费用而且合法 >>> >> 的Linux，而不是坚决要求网吧业主为一个特定的发行版支付溢价。 >>> >> >>> >> Linux is a winning operating system because it's a great, >>> >> affordable choice. Forcing it down people's throats at a high >>> >> price is no way to win friends or make them want to do more >>> >> with Linux. >>> >> >>> >> Linux是一个得人欢心的操作系统，因为它是一个伟大的、负担得起的 >>> >> 选择。强迫人们接受高价是没有办法赢得朋友、或者让他们与Linux更 >>> >> 好相处。 >>> >> >>> >> 添加评论 >>> >> <http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/20180/19229#newComment> >>> >> >>> >> *相关文章：* >>> >> >>> >> 大学学位增加5倍，今年数百万中国毕业生找不到工作 >>> >> <http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/33128/19206> >>> >> >>> >> 需要起跳的中国经济，等待居民放手消费 >>> >> <http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/55475/19232> >>> >> >>> >> 一场新冷战工程 >>> >> < >>> http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/%E7%9C%8B%E9%97%A8%E7%9A%84/19225> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 可从此处完成的操作： >>> >> >>> >> * 使用 *Google 阅读器*订阅译言-电脑/网络/数码科技 >>> >> < >>> http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffeed.feedsky.com%2Fyeeyan-tech?source=email >>> > >>> >> * 开始使用 Google 阅读器 >>> >> <http://www.google.com/reader/?source=email>，轻松地与* >>> >> 您喜爱的所有网站*保持同步更新 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ubuntu-zh mailing list >>> >> ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com >>> > >>> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zh >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Su Dan＠Douban >>> >> blog: su27.org <http://su27.org> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ubuntu-zh mailing list >>> >> ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com> >>> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zh >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > ubuntu-zh mailing list >>> > ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com >>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zh >>> > >>> -- >>> ubuntu-zh mailing list >>> ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zh >>> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-zh mailing list >> ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zh >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-zh mailing list > ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zh > >
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