Hmm, that sounds good.
 
Can you give me some more details where to look? Is the complex feature support 
in Geotools trunk, or on a working branch, or somewhere else in the Geoserver 
repository?
 
> "data with relationships just does not seem to be that common in the GIS 
> space"
 
Funny, at least for navigation data in GDF and similar raw data formats, they 
have been all over the place from the very beginning. OpenStreetMap also has 
relations.
 
And from a user point of view, the most obvious relations in geodata are the 
incidence relations between nodes and links (e.g. junctions and roads) or the 
containment hierarchy for administrative regions.
 
So if the availability of test data is really a major blocker, I think I could 
come up with a simple data model for complex features (pun intended) and fill 
it with data compiled from OSM. (And I do not mean a simple relational rehash 
of the OSM data model which provides almost no semantics - I'm thinking of a 
schema modelling roads, junctions, road and place names and admin hierarchies.)
 
Regards,
 
Harald



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        Von: udig-devel-boun...@lists.refractions.net 
[mailto:udig-devel-boun...@lists.refractions.net] Im Auftrag von Jody Garnett
        Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2009 00:03
        An: User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS; Ben Caradoc-Davies
        Betreff: Re: [udig-devel] Complex Features
        
        
        Support is gradually being rolled out.  
        
        
        One of the bottlenecks has been we lack a source of rich data 
structures - data with relationships just does not seem to be that common in 
the GIS space. As such even though we have the implementation in geotools we 
have been able to do no more then write test cases against it.
        
        
        Ben is the fellow leading the charge - I see he has a few words here:
        - http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/03/25/coming-soon-complex-features/
        
        
        Aside - "complex features" makes sense in contrast to "simple features" 
however it has proven very hard for me to get anyone to fund (something to keep 
in mind next time you name something!)
        
        
        As such there are two attempts to rename it:
        - "rich features" - see that sounds like something worth funding :-) 
unless people figure it already has money .... I hate language
        - "community schemas" - this is actually an application of a rich 
feature model; but it is something everyone can feel good about funding - after 
it supports a community; and literally allows them to agree on a schema to 
share information
        
        
        
        
        Ben has been kind enough to create a test dataset in geotools so I can 
try out the rich feature model in uDig. This was the major road block in taking 
the rich feature model to uDig.
        
        
        
        I share your passion for attributes and references; but we need people 
to publish data sets that are interesting enough :-) If we want to wrap up 
Ben's test dataset for the uDig catalog we can start working on the info tool 
now.
        
        
        Longer term I would like to see an H2 datastore with support for 
external keys.
        
        
        Jody 
 
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