"emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mr. Mulindwa, you always make a lot of statements without facts. Your >opinions appear to be based on rumours and gossip. When you do put up >articles to support your position, you immediately procede to put your own >spin on them. You even deny historical facts. I would like to believe that >Ugandans who log on to this site are intelligent and know the history of >there country. You apparently don't believe so or are just ignorant about >this fact. Hence all the postings highlighting the gruesome situation in the >north while they are accurate, tend to lose there significance because of >the spin you attach to them and that offends me. Then if one does not accept >your opinion of the crisis, you procede to brand them as apologists of what >is going on. I want to remind you that their are many northerners in the >UPDF who are in the north fighting to protect those innocent civilians in >the north. Their are northern politicians IN Uganda who also support the >government's approach to the crisis. I think it is very disingenuous of you >to use the abominable and catastrophic crisis in the north to score cheap >political points. We refuse to by your VERY CHEAP DOPE. > > >>From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto >>Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:48:30 -0400 >> >>When did Emanuel Musaazi arrive from Mars? >> >>Em >> >> The Mulindwas Communication Group >>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" >> Groupe de communication Mulindwas >>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:34 PM >>Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto >> >> >> > ...as horrible as the northern crisis is, one can't help but notice the >> > silence and lack of outrage of notherners (particularly those on this >>forum) >> > towards Kony and his band of criminals and to me that is surprising. I >>would >> > hope that this tragedy is not being used by die-hard opponents of the >> > government as a political trump card, because that would be a shame and >>a >> > disgrace (petty politics at it's worst). We should also remember that >> > hundreds of UPDF soldiers have died trying to protect innocent civilians >>in >> > the north, they also deserve some sympathy. >> > >> > >> > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >CC: "Anne Mugisha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 >> > >19:11:07 -0400 >> > > >> > >Ugandans >> > > >> > >It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements >> > >today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have >> > >condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we >> > >must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full >>well >> > >who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, >> > >killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for >>the >> > >last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into >> > >history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple >>questions. >> > > >> > >1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated "Northerners are >> > >Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live >>with >> > >us" Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? >> > >2) When Kiiza besigye stated "Acholis and Langis should be eradicated >>from >> > >Uganda" Can he produce where he opposed it? >> > > >> > >You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public >>case, >> > >and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them >> > >selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr >>Muniini >> > >Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood >>for >> > >the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller >>of >> > >the NRM government in Canada? >> > > >> > >There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern >> > >Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone >>to >> > >blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. >> > > >> > >Em >> > > >> > > The Mulindwas Communication Group >> > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" >> > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas >> > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: gook makanga >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM >> > > Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto >> > > >> > > >> > > Letter to A Kampala Friend >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto >> > > >> > > Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans >> > > August 4, 2003 >> > > >> > > Dear Tingasiga: >> > > On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] >> > >helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. >>The >> > >victims were attending a funeral ceremony. >> > > Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 >>civilians >> > >who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many >>others >> > >were injured. >> > > >> > > While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news >>media, >> > >there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these >> > >massacres of unarmed civilians. >> > > >> > > I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the >>world. >> > >The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes >>have >> > >been silent on the matter. >> > > >> > > I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group >>that >> > >brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North >> > >America. Silence. >> > > >> > > Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister >>Apolo >> > >Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing "the government's >>sadness" >>at >> > >the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression >>of >> > >outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. >> > > >> > > Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered >>each >> > >other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. >> > > >> > > Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from >>the >> > >pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing >> > >government business. >> > > >> > > Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, weren't >> > >Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by >>US >> > >and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? >> > > >> > > Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia >>at >> > >the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of >> > >Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep >>effect >> > >on our self-image. >> > > >> > > However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public >> > >outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and >>Pader >> > >[Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. >> > > >> > > The truth is, Tingasiga, the massacres in Katakwi and Pader >> > >happened to "them," not to "us." >> > > >> > > They occurred "over there", in the land of "they" who did it >>to >> > >"us" in the Luwero Triangle and elsewhere before "we" overthrew them >>from >> > >power in 1986. >> > > >> > > That the vast majority of people of Acholi and Teso had >>absolutely >> > >nothing to do with the crimes committed by the pre-Museveni regimes is >>a >> > >truth that must not be allowed to interfere with such prejudices. >> > > >> > > That the people of Acholi and Teso are our brothers, our >>kinsmen, >> > >fellow Africans, bound together by a history that we cannot undo, fated >>to >> > >a common destiny, is a detail that must not be accorded room in our >> > >consciousness. >> > > >> > > To do so would ruin the great illusion of being different from >> > >"them" who are from "over there." It would make it hard for us to say, >>with >> > >a smile, that "they" deserve it. >> > > >> > > Whether it is the Kanungu massacre or the violence in Bunyoro, >>the >> > >violent cattle-rustling in Karamoja and Teso or the abduction of girls >>from >> > >Lango and Acholi, many Ugandans see these crimes as purely local >>matters, >> > >of concern to members of the relevant "tribes." It is "their" problem, >>not >> > >"ours." >> > > >> > > This is the same attitude that has been shown by many people >>from >> > >the southern parts of Uganda, especially from Buganda and the Western >> > >Region, in response to the long nightmare that has gripped the Acholi >> > >people for nearly two decades. >> > > >> > > While few would openly admit to such racist attitudes, many >>have >> > >expressed in private conversations that the nearly one million Acholi >>in >> > >concentration camps deserve the dehumanizing fate that has been theirs >>for >> > >more than a decade. >> > > >> > > This is the attitude that almost certainly informs the >>reaction >>of >> > >many people from south of Lake Kyoga to the recent massacres in Katakwi >>and >> > >Pader. >> > > It is "them," not "us." >> > > >> > > Another possible explanation for this reaction is that these >> > >killings were perpetrated by a UPDF gunship which was presumably >>hunting >> > >for anti-government rebels. >> > > >> > > Ours is a society where we ration condemnation of injustice >>and >> > >crime. >> > > >> > > Opponents of President Yoweri Museveni's government find it >>hard >> > >to condemn criminal acts by the regime's armed opponents. "The enemy of >>my >> > >enemy is my friend." >> > > >> > > Some even celebrate the brutality of crazed fellows who >>butcher >> > >fellow citizens in the name of the Lord. >> > > >> > > On the other hand, supporters of President Yoweri Museveni and >>his >> > >government feel duty-bound to remain silent in the face of the most >> > >indefensible crimes of the state against the citizens of Uganda. >>Citizens >> > >massacred and terrorised by the state in Acholi, in Teso, in Rukungiri, >>in >> > >Kinkizi. Silence from supporters of the regime. Solidarity even in >>crime. >> > > >> > > That is why the latest high profile son of Teso, Minister of >>State >> > >for Health Mike Mukula, is unlikely to condemn the actions of the UPDF >> > >which killed "his people." >> > > >> > > Mukula, who has taken to playing an army officer complete with >> > >military fatigues and a bayonet, may even appoint himself chief >>defender >>of >> > >the UPDF, in the mistaken belief that to do otherwise would be >>unpatriotic. >> > > >> > > How one wishes that that other son of Teso, the highly >>principled >> > >Cuthbert Obwangor, was still active in politics! Not for him the antics >>of >> > >the Mukulas of this world. >> > > >> > > The question for Mukula and other good Movement cadres is >>whether >> > >mass murder by the state is any less horrifying and less reprehensible >>than >> > >mass murder by, say, Mr Joseph Kony's Lord's Resistance Army [LRA.] >> > > >> > > Is mass murder by the UPDF somehow more tolerable than that >>which >> > >was committed by the "rogue armies of the buffoon regimes" which >>governed >> > >Uganda before 1986? >> > > >> > > Does this murder by the state, albeit unintended, not warrant >>the >> > >same degree of anger and moral outrage that similar incidents would >> > >generate if they occurred in, say, Buganda, Ankole or Busoga? >> > > >> > > God forbid, but if similar bombings occurred in Kyazanga, >>Masaka >> > >or Rushere, Nyabushozi, I bet you Tingasiga, all of you folks from >>south >>of >> > >Lake Kyoga, would react swiftly and angrily. >> > > >> > > There would be very loud voices of protest and demands for the >> > >immediate resignation of the army commander and the minister[s] >> > >responsible. >> > > >> > > People would demand the arrest of the trigger-happy pilots of >>the >> > >bird-of-death? >> > > >> > > Yet when these massacres occur in Acholi, Teso or Lango the >> > >citizens from the southern half of the country carry on with their >>business >> > >as if the country has not suffered terrible loss of lives. >> > > >> > > Likewise, one is not surprised that there has not been a word >>of >> > >condemnation emanating from Ottawa, London or Washington D.C. >> > > >> > > Had the massacres occurred in President Robert Mugabe's >>Zimbabwe, >> > >the condemnations from these major western capitals would have been >>very >> > >swift and hard-hitting. >> > > >> > > It would have been Mugabe killing his people. >> > > >> > > But this is Uganda. Museveni's Uganda, temporary darling of >>London >> > >and Washington D.C. The dead civilian citizens are victims of friendly >> > >fire. Mere collateral damage in a fight against "terrorism." >> > > >> > > One is also not surprised that the church leaders in Kampala, >>the >> > >same spiritual leaders who were quick to oppose Museveni's "third term" >> > >project, have been silent on the latest massacres of the peasants in >>Teso >> > >and Acholi. >> > > >> > > I think we should all hang our heads in shame. >> > > >> > > Our collective silence and the remarkable ease with which our >> > >business has continued as usual, even before the blood of Ugandans has >> > >dried in the killing fields of Katakwi and Pader, speaks volumes. >> > > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > © 2003 The Monitor Publications >> > > >> > > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Gook >> > > >> > > "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at >>peace >> > >unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>--- >> > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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