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Godfrey
You are now making me very scared, are you saying
that shutting down Nsubuga was impossible? You see my problem is very simple, we
can sit here and spend all our lives blaming the Kironde's who were marching
soldiers, the Kironde's who may be were eating meat which they never cared to
know where it was coming from, but Cardinal Nsubuga had a physical base. A base
that could have been shut down. The then Uganda government, I will not blame it
for failing to stop NRM operations in Luwero District for the Kironde's were
blowing up patients in ambulances and running away, that was a war and I am not
going to sit here and blame Uganda government for that. But Cardinal Nsubuga as
I said before, had a known establishment, a ranch in Ssingo that was not only
used for training the Kironde's but feeding them too. And my question is, who is
it in that government that had the power to shut down that ranch who did not?
Now we have a history of Iddi Amin killing Jonan Luwum, and it wasted his
reputation, did that government know of Nsubuga's actions and refused to act for
it feared its name would have been wasted as Amin's? Is that what you mean by
"Getting the bulls by the horns impossible"? Godfrey Ssingo had no reason
to be insecure, and if UPC's failing to shut down Cardinal Nsubuga's ranch
costed us even one baby's life, Ugandans need and must know. Now that I do not
expect answers in these forums, a public inquirely again is my next solution.
Who had the authority to shut down Cardinal Emanuel
Nsubuga's ranch in Ssingo and failed to use it?
Mulindwa
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"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:28
AM
Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] IN DEFENCE OF
MUNIINI MULERA
Edward,
Knowing was one thing, but getting the bulls by
the horns was something different and almost impossible. The late
Nsubuga's intentions and activities re-enforced by M7, some individual
Ugandans even those who served under the UPC II, politicians and political
groupings was no secret. For example, take a look at the line-up after the
overthrow of UPC II. Investigations into the Luwero killings and other
killings would be the best thing that can ever happen to Uganda.
Godfrey
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:42
AM
Subject: [Ugandacom] IN DEFENCE OF
MUNIINI MULERA
Godfrey
But I think UPC was as well wrong. For I
somehow feel that the then government knew of the covert actions of Nsubuga
and UPC failed the people of Uganda to act on that old man for respect of
his religion and position. I do not know but I think I have enough blame to
go around. But again a public inquirely is the only way we can sort this
crap out. For I have a problem believing that Nsubuga's hand in the blood of
the murdered Ugandans is news today to UPC. What action/s did that
government take? Some body should be accountable and tell us as Ugandans how
we were protected by the then government.
Em
The
Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est
dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:37
AM
Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] IN DEFENCE
OF MUNIINI MULERA
Kironde,
Doesn't it bother you that the late Cardinal Emmanuel
Nsubuga did aid the brutal beast come to power?, Did he support M7 in
the name and on behalf of Buganda?, Was it Buganda or Nsubuga who
supported M7?, Kironde; the Luwero & Ssingo tails hold no more water.
A rude awakening awaits you.
May he burn in eternal hell for having danced and dinned
with the devil, may he rot in hell for having desecrated the holy
Eucharist with bloody hands.
Godfrey
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003
1:45 AM
Subject: [Ugandacom] IN DEFENCE OF
MUNIINI MULERA
Matek
Yes you let him slide away. LOL. Can I put
in only one suggestion, in this Matek/ Kironde exchange? How about
putting in Uganda a free inquirely so that Ugandans can tell what
they know? Surely Mwaami Kironde, democratic as your government is, you
can do this. let us allow Ugandans to tell us how UNLA murdered Ugandans
in Luwero and Ssingo, may be it will give us a chance to understand how
Obote is a killer? Mwaami Kironde can I count on you to back my standing
on a free and international monitored inqurirely, as the one which took
place in Rwanda to know who exactly killed our people? Is it NRM or
UNLA?
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda
est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003
7:22 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:
[Ugandacom] IN DEFENCE OF MUNIINI MULERA
...and you thought I was going to let Ed
Kironde slide way with no response from this end.
First
of all, Cardinal Emmanual Nsubuga's conspiracy with Yoweri
Museveni Kaguta to create wars in our country is a well
known fact. There are still some UNLA top ranking officers who are
alive and can testify to this fact. and what do you have
to say to that my friend?
Secondly, the NRM/A Created KONY
because of your ( meaning NRM) Militaristic policy in Northern
Uganda immediately following NRM's
raise to power which saw the systematic and deliberately
targeting of the Acholi for mass murder and slaughter, rape
sodomy e.t.c
Now the bold headed one, the warmonger Yoweri
Kaguta Mucebeni, has to sleep deep there in the Jungle of teso .. I
hear to fight KONY. Indeed he has been fighting KONI for now 18
years.... and inspite of claims by the likes of Kazini that Mbu
we have KONI's Kaunda suit we norrowlly missed the man, KONI
is still there driving Kaguta NUTS!
This for man
who often parades himself (in the Capital of US and Britain ) Mbu he
is a military Genus! 18 years later Kaguta is still fighting
KONI!
Matek
In a message dated 9/9/2003 12:49:16 PM
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<I style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal"> There is no way
the suffering in Northern Uganda would have continued for now 18
years if some elements within some of our fellow citizens in Buganda
(yes including the Late Cardinal Nsubuga) were not in cohorts with
the NRM murderers to eat and destroy Uganda. This is a bitter
fact. Matekopoko
This is the most bizarre statement so far.
If you have failed to blame Joseph Kony for slaughtering Ugandans in
the northern part of the country and now in Teso, then you shift the
blame on a dead respected leader in our society, we have a lot of
work to do. Blaming Buganda for the slaughter of the Acholi
seems to be the official stand of the UPC leadership – even when
Obote writes about the LRA rebels he puts the word in quotes. You
guys are seated on the truth and it is only fair to talk to your UPC
members to stop the insurgency and do not blame Buganda. Dr
Rwanyarare has already vowed to take up arms if the land deal is
approved – I wonder how many times he is going to do
that.
Matekopoko is being certain of something you know
nothing about. What do you intend to achieve by enticing your
community that Buganda is to blame for the slaughter of the Acholi
people for the past 18 years? As a politician, and am sure you
have a handful following in your community, what would be the
intention of portraying the late Cardinal Nsubuga as a
murderer? This takes me back to my thinking that LRA has been
and still is the fighting wing for UPC. Stop diverting your
own atrocities on your own kin and then blame it to Buganda or the
catholic community. Some of the people in Northern Uganda know
what the politicians are doing –blaming Buganda in the day and
recruit at night.
You are bankrupt of ideas Mr Matekopoko and
regionalizing this insurgency and crediting it to Cardinal Nsubuga
is clear testimony to that.
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