Chris Opoka,
Raed my posting. I did not that the 1966 constituion took away Kampala. I said "1996" although the actual year is 1994. Read it again.
1. Opoka, as an example, Gulu or Kitgum belongs to Acholi people does it mean that since they dont control the way you described "control" it doesnt belong to them?
2. Its a fact that Mengo had some tax powers and Mengo municipality was collecting taxes the way Ontario govt collects tax save the PST, income tax and corporation taxes.
3. The Kampala of today is 5 times bigger than Kampala of 1962. Can you define what Kampala you're talking about? Remember Kampala stopped at the junction of Nsalo road and Hoima road ( at Old Kampala), in the west, and at Nakawa in the east, Cloark tower ( I think) in the south, and Makerere or Mulago in the west. The rest of the ares were under the judicial authirity of mengo. Thats why Mengo had Buganda police, prisons, etc. Why did Mengo have its own police, judially and prison directly answerable to Mengo govt if there was no any kind if control?
Do you want to imply that Mengo govt depended on the central govt to pay their salaries, roads and all development projects?
Kampala was neither started by Bangereza nor UPC. The original controllers of Kampala were the late Kabaka's though the name was not Kampala. The city was called Lubaga with all the powers and controls which you mentioned. This is found even in E.African history by Were. It did not start in 1962, or 1900 as you want people to believe.
Quoted facts will come later but as at now, think of my recollections and aurguments.
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From: "Chris Opoka-Okumu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING\ Kasangwawo Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:15:56 -0400
Bwana,
Ssenyange,
It is interesting that you are exposing lies of others people and in the process you may be telling lies of your own. But educate me, if you can.
Which 1966 Constitution took away Kampala from Buganda? Quote the provisions, not blatant statements.
Did Kampala belong to Buganda under the 1962 Constitution to have been
taken away from it? In what ways did it belong to Buganda? Notice that even
the Buganda document on federo simply made blatant assertion as if it was a
fact and everyone seem to take it as the truth without proper verification.
Who controlled the administration and had the power over Kampala under the
1962 Constitution? Can you quote the actual provisions of 1962 Constitution
or any law which says Kampala was controlled and administered by the Kingdom
of Buganda and that the Kingdom of Buganda had the power to collect a cent
in tax , appoint administrators or otherwise control the election and
appointments of administrators in and of Kampala. In my humble view,
ownership should have some element of control and power over the object
owned.
Over to you Sir, Bwana Ssenyange.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING\ Kasangwawo
>
>
> Kasangwawo,
>
> Arguing with Mulindwa is a waste of time. I chose to keep on
> exposing their lies ( together with Adhola) and then proove by giving
facts
> to the readers. Doenst he know that Kampala was taken away from Buganda in
> 1996 constitution? Doesnt he know that the federal arrangement of 1962
that
> brought together all Kingdoms and nationalities of Uganda was abolished by
> Obote in 1966\7 through the pegion holes of the parliament? Binaisa who
> drafted it for Obote has been giving facts day after day.
>
> As you said " hynas in sheep's clothes", Mulindwa and Adhola are
> trying to rewrite their own history and we're not going to give them that
> chance especially where written authentic documents are available. These
> hatemongers must be exposed and stopped.
>
> J. Ssenyange
>
> ------------------
>
>
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> >Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:31:47 +0000
> >
> >Mulindwa,
> >
> >the more you continue with this issue the more you display your
ignorance.
> >Mengo is proposing (not begging) a federal system of governance
> >specifically because your hero (i.e. Obote, in case you again pretend not
> >to know who your man in Lusaka is) violated and destroyed the federal
> >arrangement that had been in place at independence. It is as simple as
> >that.
> >
> >You have been given several references by some kind netters, I wish you
> >could try and educate yourself about the issue before you embarass
yourself
> >further.
> >
> >Kasangwawo
> >
> >
> >>From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> >>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:06:03 -0400
> >>
> >>Mwaami Kasangwawo
> >>
> >>You know I decided not to go into this debate of Buganda being
independent
> >>but now that you have started to attack every one, please allow me to
ask
> >>one very simple question. If Buganda got independence on 8th of October,
> >>why
> >>is Mengo again through Ssemogerere going to the constitutional
commission
> >>to
> >>beg for federalism? Why are they asking for Kampala? Please clarify.
> >>
> >>Em
>
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