I still think it was a good decision to post it and I will stand by that decision if I was to do it again. We can not blame massacres when we can not stand people's reasoning, for we even have no right to decide what the entire world must think or believe.

Em
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [Ugnet] AUSCHWITZ -MYTHS & FACTS (One)



Mr. Allimadi,

You're spot on. But even as a scholarly re-examination of history, the
article sucks. It builds straw men and demolishes (surprise! surprise!)
them without engaging a single serious historical source -- from the
left or right.

I checked out the ihr.org Web site. I confirmed what I suspected. It's
associated with British historian and holocaust denier David Irving.

vukoni

Allimadi wrote:

This document may be quite interesting for some history scholars.
But the irrelevance of this document for the greater public is quite surprising:
to me it does not matter whether a dictatorial, rascist regime like the Nazis
kills 100 people, or 1000, or 1,000,000 or 10,000,000,000. The bottom line
is that people died, because it was a dictatorial, rascist regime -
and that for itself is bad enough!


    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von *Edward Mulindwa
    *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 30. Januar 2005 02:27
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    *Betreff:* [Ugnet] AUSCHWITZ -MYTHS & FACTS (One)

     *Auschwitz - Myths & Facts*
    By Mark Weber
    IHR.org
    1-29-5

    Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime
    concentration camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish --
    were reportedly exterminated, especially in gas chambers.
    Auschwitz is widely regarded as the most terrible Nazi
    extermination center. The camp's horrific reputation cannot,
    however, be reconciled with the facts.

    Scholars Challenge Holocaust Story

    Astonishing as it may seem, more and more historians and engineers
    have been challenging the widely accepted Auschwitz story. These
    "revisionist" scholars do not dispute the fact that large numbers
    of Jews were deported to the camp, or that many died there,
    particularly of typhus and other diseases. But the compelling
    evidence they present shows that Auschwitz was not an
    extermination center and that the story of mass killings in "gas
    chambers" is a myth.

    The Auschwitz Camps

    The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now
    south-central Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there
    between 1942 and mid-1944.

    The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II,
    was supposedly the main extermination center, and Monowitz, or
    Auschwitz III, was a large industrial center where gasoline was
    produced from coal. In addition there were dozens of smaller
    satellite camps devoted to the war economy.

    Four Million Victims?

    At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the
    Germans exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This
    figure, which was invented by the Soviets, was uncritically
    accepted for many years. It often appeared in major American
    newspapers and magazines, for example. [1]

    Today no reputable historian, not even those who generally accept
    the extermination story, believes this figure. Israeli Holocaust
    historian Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that it is time to finally
    acknowledge the familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth.
    In July 1990 the Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with
    Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, suddenly announced that
    altogether perhaps one million people (both Jews and non-Jews)
    died there. Neither institution would say how many of these people
    were killed, nor were any estimates given of the numbers of those
    supposedly gassed. [2] One prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald
    Reitlinger, has estimated that perhaps 700,000 or so Jews perished
    at Auschwitz. More recently, Holocaust historian Jean-Claude
    Pressac has estimated that about 800,000 persons -- of whom
    630,000 were Jewish -- perished at Auschwitz. While even such
    lower figures are incorrect, they show how the Auschwitz story has
    changed drastically over the years. [3]

    Bizarre Tales

    At one time it was seriously claimed that Jews were systematically
    electrocuted at Auschwitz. American newspapers, citing a Soviet
    eyewitness report from liberated Auschwitz, told readers in
    February 1945 that the methodical Germans had killed Jews there
    using an "electric conveyor belt on which hundreds of persons
    could be electrocuted simultaneously [and] then moved on into
    furnaces. They were burned almost instantly, producing fertilizer
    for nearby cabbage fields." [4]

    And at the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert
    Jackson charged that the Germans used a "newly invented" device to
    instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a
    way that there was no trace left of them." [5] No reputable
    historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales.

    The Höss 'Confession'

    A key Holocaust document is the "confession" of former Auschwitz
    commandant Rudolf Höss of April 5, 1946, which was submitted by
    the U.S. prosecution at the main Nuremberg trial. [6]

    Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for the Auschwitz
    extermination story, it is actually a false statement that was
    obtained by torture.

    Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant
    Bernard Clarke described how he and five other British soldiers
    tortured the former commandant to obtain his "confession." Höss
    himself privately explained his ordeal in these words: "Certainly,
    I signed a statement that I killed two and half million Jews. I
    could just as well have said that it was five million Jews. There
    are certain methods by which any confession can be obtained,
    whether it is true or not." [7]

    Even historians who generally accept the Holocaust extermination
    story now acknowledge that many of the specific statements made in
    the Höss "affidavit" are simply not true. For one thing, no
    serious scholar now claims that anything like two and a half or
    three million people perished in Auschwitz.

    The Höss "affidavit" further alleges that Jews were already being
    exterminated by gas in the summer of 1941 at three other camps:
    Belzec, Treblinka and Wolzek. The "Wolzek" camp mentioned by Höss
    is a total invention. No such camp existed, and the name is no
    longer mentioned in Holocaust literature. Moreover, the story
    these days by those who believe in the Holocaust legend is that
    gassings of Jews did not begin at Auschwitz, Treblinka, or Belzec
    until sometime in 1942.

    No Documentary Evidence

    Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz
    were confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one
    refers to a policy or program of extermination. In fact, the
    extermination story cannot be reconciled with the documentary
    evidence.

    Many Jewish Inmates Unable to Work

    For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who
    were unable to work were immediately killed. Jews who were too
    old, young, sick, or weak were supposedly gassed on arrival, and
    only those who could be worked to death were temporarily kept alive.

    But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of
    the Jewish inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless
    not killed. For example, an internal German telex message dated
    Sept. 4, 1943, from the chief of the Labor Allocation department
    of the SS Economic and Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported
    that of 25,000 Jewish inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able
    to work, and that all of the remaining Jewish inmates -- some
    21,500, or about 86 percent -- were unable to work. [8]

    This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on
    "security measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS
    concentration camp system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl
    reported that there was a total of 67,000 inmates in the entire
    Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000 were hospitalized or
    disabled. In the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly the main
    extermination center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of
    whom "approximately 15,000 are unable to work." [9]

    These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz
    extermination story.

    The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established
    primarily as a camp for Jews who were not able to work, including
    the sick and elderly, as well as for those who were temporarily
    awaiting assignment to other camps. That's the considered view of
    Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University, who also says that
    this was the reason for the unusually high death rate there. [10]

    Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish,
    acknowledges in a recent book about the "final solution" that more
    Jews perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other
    "natural" causes than were executed. [11]

    Anne Frank

    Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is
    known around the world for her famous diary. But few people know
    that thousands of Jews, including Anne and her father, Otto Frank,
    "survived" Auschwitz.

    The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the
    Netherlands to Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later,
    in the face of the advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along
    with many other Jews to the Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of
    typhus in March 1945.

    Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the
    camp hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and
    feeble Jews who were left behind when the Germans abandoned the
    camp in January 1945, shortly before it was overrun by the
    Soviets. He died in Switzerland in 1980.

    If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father,
    they would not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though
    it was, cannot be reconciled with the extermination story.

    Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay
    statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any
    evidence of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable,
    because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread.

    Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish
    and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed
    that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing
    story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime
    propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio
    stations. [12]

    Survivor Testimony

    Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of
    extermination at Auschwitz.

    An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp
    experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was
    interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations
    with a Polish forced laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a
    Gypsy woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed
    at Auschwitz.

    Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress
    and go into a large concrete room without windows to take a
    shower. The terrified women were sure that they were about to die.
    But then, instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads.

    Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed
    the death of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus,
    and quite a few committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all
    of mass killings, gassings, or of any extermination program. [13]

    A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau
    from Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed
    and cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she
    heard and saw nothing of "gas chambers" during the time she was
    interned there. She heard the gassing stories only later. [14]

    Part two follows

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