Matek,
I shall willingly stop "making Redundant noise", but why don't you start by telling your friend to stop his uncalled-for provocation ?
Kasangwawo
From: Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:25:19 -0700 (PDT)
Mwanawatu Jonah Kasangwawo!
You are simply making Redundant noise!...wewe sasa Onapiga kelele!!! You need to deal with kaguta ..he created the mess in Uganda... he is yet to create even geater mess in Uganda if he continues with his SAD TERM!!! the writing is on the wall! wake up lady...thous has been sleeping for long!!
MK
jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your liitle brain is amazed by anything. Does it matter that he hasn't been sued for twenty years ? What is important is that he will in the end face justice. In fact, just recently four women came forward saying that they want to sue him for killing their husbands. Some people are even ready to help them prepare their case.
But what about the 1966-71 killings at Nakulabye, Kisubi, Lubiri, etc ? What
about the panda gari and midnight house searches ? What do you say about
those ?
>From: "Edward Mulindwa"
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To:
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:02:14 -0400
>
>And for twenty plus years you idiots never cared to sue HUH, Baganda crap
>some times amazes me for it goes toe to toe with stupidity.
>
>Em
>Toronto
>The Mulindwas Communication Group
>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo"
>
>To:
>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>
>
>>Its not enough just putting the blame on Obote's ministers. The fact is,
>>Obote was the chief executive, so to say. He has to take responsibility
>>for the killing of Ugandans that went on under his watch. Unless you are
>>saying that he was so incompetent that he was not aware of what his
>>ministers were doing or he simply couldn't control them.
>>
>>>From: "Edward Mulindwa"
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>To:
>>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>>>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:56:47 -0400
>>>
>>>And if Obote decides not to come back to Uganda? Then it is okay? What
>>>happened to critical thinking? So all ministers in that government who
>>>are in Uganda and some who are working in NRM all UNLA officers in Uganda
>>>today does not matter you just need Obote to tell you how he killed
>>>Ugandans in Luwero? No wonder NRM is starting to set terms of Obote's
>>>return because they are now knowing how Ugandans love Obote.
>>>
>>>And it is amazing that just last night I talked to a Ugandan at length
>>>regarding this return, and she said these words and I quote "No Obote can
>>>come back for we have tried our best to kill all UPCs so no problem he
>>>can show up no one cares" end quote. Umm well Mukono only has so far
>>>raised 25 cows, what does that tell you about the man and about what
>>>Ugandans feel about him?.
>>>
>>>Uganda is a ZOO indeed and Museveni is a zoo keeper, guys stay there I
>>>will stay here.
>>>
>>>Em
>>>Toronto
>>>The Mulindwas Communication Group
>>>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
>>> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
>>>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From:
>>>To:
>>>Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:16 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>>>
>>>
>>>Mr. Mulindwa,
>>>It is a pity it took you a lot of trouble to get the real cause of
>>>Kabaka's
>>>death. He was dead and trying to get an answer from him would not have
>>>been
>>>very easy.
>>>
>>>In this case however, Dr. Obote is alive and can talk for himself,
>>>fortunately
>>>he is endowed with an abundant ability to convince even the doubting ones
>>>like
>>>me. He can surely get back to Uganda and convince us that it was not him
>>>but
>>>President Museveni who was responsible for the killings in NOT ONLY
>>>Luwero but
>>>other parts of the country as well.
>>>
>>>Some of us would have been willing to listen to his side of the story
>>>even 20
>>>yrs ago. I'm sure, then just like now, he would get a judge and general
>>>public
>>>to listen to his side of the story. He just wasn't there to give it. Now
>>>that
>>>he is going back to Uganda, why do you want to deny as the opportunity to
>>>listen to his side of the story? It is not just now that we are getting
>>>interested in it. As to why the Movement is interested in it now, may be
>>>the
>>>answer can best be got from Mr. Opondo, the movement spokesperson.
>>>
>>>Mr. Mulindwa, would rather, that Dr. Obote comes back and no questions
>>>are
>>>asked and therefore all off us remain guessing who was responsible for
>>>all the
>>>deaths during his regime? Some of us would like to set a precedence that
>>>will
>>>see even President Museveni held responsible for any wrongs committed
>>>while he
>>>was in power. We will have to moral authority to demand for that if we
>>>cannot
>>>demand for it from Dr. Obote now.
>>>
>>>Nice day.
>>>
>>>Quoting Edward Mulindwa :
>>>
>>>>Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked? Did
>>>>you
>>>>really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? And why
>>>>has
>>>>The Movement taken 20 years without looking into this issue? I saw The
>>>>Paul
>>>>Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a society? May be The Movement
>>>>is
>>>>the one to have every thing to hide?
>>>>
>>>>But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and we
>>>>
>>>>accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda girl
>>>>who
>>>>was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's postmortem
>>>>report
>>>>and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because he was a plain
>>>>drunkard.
>>>>And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for a report on his death
>>>>because
>>>>it is some thing we must just believe.
>>>>
>>>>Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed
>>>>
>>>>Em
>>>>Toronto
>>>>
>>>> The Mulindwas Communication Group
>>>>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
>>>> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
>>>>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From:
>>>>To:
>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:14 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Onegi,
>>>>Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with
>>>>the
>>>>ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince
>>>>the
>>>>courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni and
>>>>not
>>>>him
>>>>who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans these
>>>>
>>>>facts?
>>>>Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not know
>>>>who
>>>>the
>>>>killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like so
>>>>
>>>>many
>>>>other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he gets
>>>>
>>>>back
>>>>to Uganda.
>>>>
>>>>And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I
>>>>belong
>>>>to
>>>>the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. I
>>>>
>>>>will,
>>>>like many others, continue asking. For it is a fact that people were
>>>>killed
>>>>in
>>>>Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that
>>>>some
>>>>of
>>>>us want to know. The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ here
>>>>
>>>>used
>>>>to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is
>>>>effective
>>>>today.
>>>>
>>>>Nice day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" :
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is
>>>>the
>>>> > one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the
>>>> > contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started
>>>>an
>>>> > unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and
>>>> > mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart
>>>>intelligent
>>>> > and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in
>>>>the
>>>> > morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens.
>>>> > That is briefly what has been going on.
>>>> > Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni
>>>>and
>>>> > his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of
>>>> > legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the
>>>> > master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That
>>>>is
>>>> > your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't
>>>> > that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in.
>>>> >
>>>> > Onegi
>>>> >
>>>> > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> > Since, according to UPC, Obote and his government are not
>>>>responsible
>>>> > for the
>>>> > atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his
>>>>regime,
>>>> > why
>>>> > doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His
>>>>coming
>>>> > back may
>>>> > be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the
>>>>UPC
>>>> > members
>>>> > who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths
>>>>in
>>>> > Luwero
>>>> > and elsewhere in the country.
>>>> >
>>>> > Quoting Matek Opoko :
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC
>>>> > >
>>>> > > THE Uganda People's Congress (UPC) has said information state
>>>> > minister
>>>> > > Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the
>>>> > people
>>>> > > who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Speaking on phone, UPC's defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo,
>>>> > yesterday
>>>> > > said, "I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other
>>>> > than
>>>> > > protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the people who
>>>> > threw
>>>> > > the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton
>>>>Obote
>>>> > as
>>>> > > he said. Obote is not a killer.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from
>>>> > the
>>>> > > government. We know they have sinister plans for the party
>>>> > president.
>>>> > > They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the
>>>> > > public's opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of
>>>> > > stopping him from coming back," Wegulo said.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > He was reacting to Buturo's warning on Luweero massacres in which
>>>>he
>>>> > > said exiled former president Obote should answer for the
>>>>atrocities.
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out
>>>> > openly
>>>> > > on Obote's return.
>>>> > > "This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the
>>>> > government.
>>>> > > So when the government says such things about him, we have to be
>>>> > very
>>>> > > careful," Wegulo said.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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