Re: [Ugandacom] Re: [Ugnet] Noc Laduma the brainless NRM GOON!!

Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:14:12 -0800

Noc:
I believe the UPC party President as artciluated very succucently  UPC Party policies. This is contained in a document herein reffered to as  THE UPC PARTY MANIFESTO.
I believe you can obtain a free copy of the Document from the UPC Party Headquarters at the Uganda House, Kampala..now if  you are lazy to get off your behind write to UPC headquaryters requesting the Manifesto... then my friend what do you want me to do for you? Or could it be that you have wax in your ears such that you did not listen to the many speaches  artcilulated by numerous UPC Party Candidates during the past elections ( which NRM STOLE). My friend do not waste our time.
 
MK

Okuto del Coli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Talk about the UPC!!!! Ugandan want to hear you present to them your party. They want you to communicate to them the party policy. You waste so much energy talking about your adversaries. Tell the people what they want to know. What the government does to them is no news to them. They know what they feel.
rgds
noc'l


--- On Sat 03/11, Matek Opoko < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

From: Matek Opoko [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:31:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Noc Laduma the brainless NRM GOON!!

Nay!

Me think the Doc is already very much awake! He is awake to NRM politics of manipulations, of lies and of playing tricks.

Indeed the NRM has miss treated the old Docso terribly so that the doc cannot now go back and reconcile with Mucebeni....... That will be like a dog going back to eat it's own vomit!.

Now we await for the NRM to dig even a deeper hole for themselves by trying Dr. Kizza Bwesiye for Treason and terrorism.

The latest is that Mucebeni the master manipulator , has BLINKED..I hear he has instructed his MIlitary Court NOT to try Dr Bwesigye before the Military Court Marshall..So why was Tumwine making all that noise?

BKtrial however, will continue at the high court. Prey you do not have another Justice Katutsi there....

&nb sp;Shrew calculating political observers have long concluded that If Bwesigye is convicted of the treason charge, Museveni and his Bahima group loss..if they release KB ..Museveni still losses!!... it is a no win win situation! for the NRM/O...this is getting interesting!!

MK

Edriss Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
"The people of Lango seem committed to voting Kizza Besigye, not Miria Obote, because they see competency in Besigye. They see that they need Besigye to get rid of President Museveni who has through his administration caused the suffering of people and failed to address the disaster situation in northern Uganda". Cecilia Ogwal - was Dr Besigye used by the Langi, Acholis and the rest of UPC stalwarts as a political condom? How long will the Doctor wake and smell the rubber, the condom is rudely discarded by the user.


On 3/11/06, Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Noc.

Some of us believed and still believe that the UPC could not possible participate and win in an NRM conducted election.

We were very much aware that the NRM was going to play Election tricks which include among others bribary oof voters, intimmidation of the mass by Yoweri Museveni's Army....e.t.c

Since you are too stupid to decipher the hidden facts , one of the rea sons as to why the UPC participated in Yoweri Museveni's elections, is that as UPC we can identify a) UPC leaders who are still with us b) expose the NRM for what it is ..i.e ( for your stupid brain) a Military dictatorship .

We have achieve both objectives!!!

MK

NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, you lost. You were not smart enough to convince the people. From a strong party to mere 6 mandate (beaten even by the DP).
Man the way I enjoy your outburst. When ever some one reacts to my arument the way you do, I fell satisfied. I know then that I got my superior point through. People like you behave like that. No wonder the results were like that.
My be you should start making substantial arguments instead of merely push through others articles.
rgds
noc'l
From: Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda <[email protected] >, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: [Ugnet] (no subject)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:36:53 -0800 (PST)

Members list you forget it is Friday, and that means Del Coli just recieved his wellfare check from the Swiss Government. Twon choo dong Oyang!!

My friend leave the UPC out of your Stupidity!!!.. The NRM has "won" the elections.or is it "ERECTION" ...now you continue ruling..until things fall apart the center cannot hold!!!

!
MK

Okuto del Coli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
One horizon that is paradox-free and therefore generally not receptor of Speculation Emitters is the UPC's total eruption. That eclipse is self-explanatory. One needed not be drunk to anticipate the impact of deviation from "OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE".

Once more for the ten time (again, more over!!) our apprehension proves superiority over peripheral gapers.

Indeed, the UPC's dilemma / disarray is well exhibited in the acts of it's "Obal-UPC" (Confusing Agents).

Instead of sitting down and critically analysing the quake and it's impact, some are here hollering like nothing wrong has happened: like the people of Uganda have not rejected the party's policy. Hopefully, some of those former PPC's and UPC branch offices (like UPC Stockholm), now know we were very sober in our predicament. We were presenting situations as they were without distortio n, mystification or malicious manipulation: The superiority of not being prejudiced .

Election rigged or not, the UPC's catastrophe is clear!

My great grand father always did say: "Politics is always and at all times ambivalent". Where upon my great grand mothers countered: "All is relative".

These days of inflation of speculations (triggered by the aval anche like catastrophe election results) those phenomena are more concrete than ever.

The disaster political scenario in Acoli (probably in most parts of Northern and Eastern Uganda) epitomizes the apprehension.

Once again, we are bound for a very fragile mandate period with very loose constellations. AND, the situation is not exactly new!

Most of the MPs retained their s eats (this time around on the FDC platform!!!) while Presidential appointees lost.

A deduction from the above is that the Acoli VOTED FOR "NO CHANGE". The irony seems paradoxical, is it not? Ponder deeper!

The fact that the same MPs retained their seats even on another party's ticket and without account of the past harvests is vindictive enough.

Question is:

What makes a people sink into such dept of "r eality irresponsiveness"? What make a people sink to such dept of self-denial?

Spontaneously, I can parade a few hypotheses:
1) Lack of participation / engagement (rd. no participation): poor communication or presentation of real issues facilitated by lack of freedom and liberty.
2) Intimidation ( mostly threats from the LRA)
3) Legacy of once a Champ always the Cha mp ( Acoli did not vote on basis of personal political conviction). Perhaps it is to the candidate's advantage that key political issues are pushed aside.

Hon. Reagan Okumo is first out with urgent request for reconciliation. A very good gesture but, if he does hint on any structure for the reconciliation, it is very primitive and not sustainable ( almost as primitive as Mato Ofut). The suggestion is good but technicality is a little obnoxious as some of the "heat of election" cliché´ against runner-ups persists.

The world has technically shrunk with universal standards / definitions /perquisites to ensure Global cooperation. From that perspective, too simplistic "home-made" variety of conflict reso lution appears not only excommunicated but also too populist.

It is normal that political opponents invite each other to dinners or festivities. However, Hon Okumu seems to be suggesting reconciliation "ritual" of a different sort under the conductorship of certain Acoli institution. I do not think that is utterly correct.

< FONT face="Times New Roman">Firstly, it consolidates a conflict situation of a different sort.

It is normal that during the heat of election campaign, politicians pull all sorts of psychological warfare magazines. It is politics. It is political checkmate. IT IS NOT "BAD-BLOOD" CONFLICT. But approached wrongly, those situations risk conflict label. Our politicians have to get use to playing according to the rules of the game without resorting to baby-sitting by the public!!

Hon. Reagan Okumo pledges the same convergence his political adversaries cried for but were denie d.

A question that might pre-occupy the minds of certain actors is:

Why suddenly seek the same convergence, which for decades have been sabotaged?

This scenario may not surface. Still, there may be need to be sober. In Afric a, it is common that certain categories act for the gen eral good only if they themselves are the wielders. The so-called "Looser" politicians can question why they should converge behind the new concept when they never got desired backing during their mandate?

This reciprocity explains the conflict management concept I described above as technically primitive and not sustainable (considering the dept of the conflict and political stake). Astounding ruthlessness further aggravates the hazardous situation.

The LRAs rally behind FDC candidates is strenuous. This is particularly so in cases where the candidates do not openly distance themselves from the LRA: They can no longer play non- partial.

Yes indeed, we have a situation this coming mandate period. But, as said, "there will always come sunshine after rain ". So, let us look at the brighter side of life.

Apropos ambivalence, ONE PO SITIVE AMBIVALENCE IN THE CONFUSION is that certain of the unscrupulous politicians ARE NOW SO COMPELLED to instruct their LRA compatriots to unconditionally cease with all atrocious acts ag ainst Ugandan. That much is clear. They are so compelled to deliver the peace they have for decades sabotaged for their own political gains. The same applies to the LRA. They too are so compelled to comply because this may be their only CHANCE TO ELUDE JUSTICE:

The LRA lays down armed insurgency from within Acoli. In exchange, the MPs guarantee them impunity concession by conjuring the ICC and relevant international actors demand for retribution (with rhetorical as: "Gamente rach LRA bene rach", "ICC prosecutions will adventure potential peace prospects and send the LRA back into the bush", "For the first time we are on the Eve of a negotiated peace resolution" etc).

A problem is, since the LRA backed the FDC candidates, the magnitude of indifference might increase. The so-called prospect for a negotiated resolution might shift poles. Suddenly we might find the thrust of the negotiation shifting from between the Ugandan Government and the LRA to between the FDC Mps and the LRA.

< FONT face="Times New Roman">This situation will of course not propitiate Acoli. I would like to think this scenario is highly unlikely. Still, the possibility is there. Another case is if the local NRM politicians (Councillors) dislodge from responsibility (stand aside and w atch while toothless FDCs battle in vain)


The Government too is problematic:

The region is at the fate of the president's Good will. Ministerial posts to region is all but presidential appointments (even though other interests such as the Military, Women and Yo uth also mi ght offer opportunities to back-door MPs) A potential set back is if adversaries are brought to checkmate one another.

For example think about a situation where Walter Ocora returns through presidential appointment as Minister for Northern affairs i.e. Mao's boss?!?!?
Speculate on
Rgds
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