It is only in Uganda where every single election is surgically attacked by 
every crappy reason out there. Tell me only one single Ugandan that has ever 
opened his mouth and said yes we were beaten. Men order more guns for you need 
more of them than chalk. There are those of us who simply get frustrated as 
soon there is an election in Uganda for all these critical thinkers will pop up 
and tell us why this was that and never that. Why do you even bother to conduct 
elections any ways?

Simply unbelievable.

Em
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ocii 
  To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda 
  Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ugnet] UPC takes Oyam South MP seat




  Ooh man o man, Mulindwa are you telling us all these are flying pass your 
head?

  Oyam South is far from political defeat! Know why? Because it was late Okullo 
Epak's domain; a UPC strong man. So, there is nothing "defeat" in that UPC 
territory.

  What raised my curiosity was the death of Charles Awany, a UPC mobilizer! 
That is what all UPC members should be paying attention to. Was he deliberately 
killed for maintaining UPC hold in Oyam South? Such are questions UPC stalwarts 
should be asking instead of you diverting attention to rather useless 
discussion!

  Come on now. Vukoni even stopped being "generous" and hard hitted to drive 
the message home! 

  Mulindwa don't under estimate what is being put forward; its the reality you 
should be looking at attentively or just butt out. 

  Its a wood pecking approach, I called it.

  Ocii

  Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Vukoni

    When will a Ugandan ever state that yes it is true we were beaten in an 
    election? With this thread I will be very surprised if Ocii or any other 
    Ugandan does not claim that Obote actually rigged this by-election. It is 
by 
    accepting that you have been beaten in an election that you go back and 
    rebuild, but Ugandans always have some crappy excuse on every single 
    election.

    Just watch as this thread continues.

    Em
    Toronto

    The Mulindwas Communication Group
    "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
    Groupe de communication Mulindwas
    "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    To: "The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda" 
    Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:42 PM
    Subject: RE: [Ugnet] UPC takes Oyam South MP seat


    > Jal Ocii,
    >
    > Thanks for your bluntness. Truth must be spoken, not only to power but
    > also to the people and the power seekers. During the electoral campaigns
    > last year, I remember chastising the opposition parties for reserving
    > their venom for each other.
    >
    > Politics is the art of the possible. It is also the art of making
    > coalitions and utilizing all means that don't require you to abandon
    > your principles to get what you want. As things stand, the probability
    > that an ailing UPC will remove Museveni all on its own is close to zero.
    > No, I'm being generous. It is pure fantasy.
    >
    > But of course, we can't quite match the self-destructive energies of
    > political dilettantes who like to grandstand and vituperate their
    > (potential) allies in e-mail discussion forums instead of doing the hard
    > work of organizing Ugandans for more democratic alternatives.
    >
    > Vukoni
    >
    >
    >> -------- Original Message --------
    >> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] UPC takes Oyam South MP seat
    >> From: ocii 
    >> Date: Sat, June 23, 2007 9:32 am
    >> To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda 
    >>
    >> Quite funny how you don't understand messages! Why don't you read
    >> messages many times if thats what it takes, or ask questions before
    >> reading finally what you want in them other than what is written?!
    >>
    >> What has individuals got to do with point B or C?! You see thi's
    >> where I normally get peeved!! If you don't understand nothing say so
    >> before opening your ignorant mind!! It will help.
    >>
    >> Moving from point A at present, to point B is a Woodpecking approach
    >> to, let me use the same term, usher in "fundamental" change,
    >> enabling putting in place, a modified version of a 'pecking order'
    >> in the country; note modified -imparting a nationalistic pecking
    >> order!
    >>
    >> Do you get it now or are still wondering what Ocii is talking
    >> about?! Let me know.
    >>
    >> Ocii
    >>
    >> Edward Mulindwa wrote:
    >> And your point B the Kiiza Besigye happens to be very sick
    >> to the extent that Mugisha Muntu a car robberer now holds
    >> the helm of FDC, may be just may be Ugandans now have Ocii
    >> as plan C. Unbelievable how we as a people have failed to
    >> wonder how UPC has won this seat and start a new discussion
    >> on how the plat form of this electorate has started to move
    >> despite the lies of FDC and to wonder how Maama Miria's
    >> leadership has some how survived to lead a seat in
    >> parliament. But hoi we are in a car accident and we need a
    >> plan B. We need to some how slow down and look at Uganda
    >> issues with reality for reality is starting to hit home.
    >>
    >> Lies only work part time.
    >>
    >> Em
    >> Toronto
    >>
    >>
    >> The Mulindwas Communication Group
    >> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
    >> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
    >> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message ----- 
    >> From: ocii
    >> To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda
    >> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:55 AM
    >> Subject: [Ugnet] UPC takes Oyam South MP seat
    >>
    >>
    >> "At least two people were confirmed dead including Charles
    >> Awany, a UPC party mobiliser, who was knocked dead by a
    >> speeding vehicle at Loro Trading Centre on Lira-Kamdini
    >> highway."
    >>
    >> This is one among many reasons there is need for point B to be able
    >> to usher in a more nationalist and Africancentric constitution,
    >> enabling thorough investigations into such deaths, and the
    >> perpetrator/s punishable by death, if the death proves motivated by
    >> any form of hatred!
    >>
    >> Ocii
    >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> UPC takes Oyam South MP seat
    >> SAMUEL O. EGADU OYAM
    >>
    >> Uganda Peoples Congress has defeated the ruling NRM in the hotly
    >> contested Oyam South parliamentary by-elections.
    >> District returning officer Robert Beine declared UPC's Issa Otto
    >> winner just after 11:00pm on Thursday.
    >>
    >> Mr Otto polled 8,842 votes against NRM candidate Patrick Ogwang's
    >> 5,352. Mr Ogwang came third in the race.
    >> Independent candidate Nelson Adea was the second with 6,541 votes
    >> while Ruth Ataala Adupa (independent) came last with 1,111 votes.
    >> The seat fell vacant following the death of former member of
    >> Parliament Yefusa Okullo Epak who succumbed to lung cancer at a South
    >> Africa hospital in April. Celebrations
    >> Jubilant UPC supporters danced and sang party songs upon hearing the
    >> news of Mr Otto's victory.
    >> The hotly contested seat attracted several NRM officials including
    >> Dorothy Hyuha, minister without portfolio, Daniel Omara Atubo,
    >> minister of lands, housing and urban development and Musa Ecweru,
    >> state minister for disaster preparedness and refugees who camped in
    >> Oyam to rally support for NRM candidate Ogwang.
    >>
    >> Dokolo Woman MP Cecilia Ogwal (independent) also camped in Oyam to
    >> campaign for Mr Adea.
    >> There was low voter turn out as only 21,426 people voted out 93,803
    >> registered voters in Oyam South constituency, representing just only
    >> 22.8%.
    >> Cancelled results
    >> Mr Beine said results of Aweikwo polling station were cancelled on
    >> ground that the presiding officer did not submit declaration forms
    >> from all the polling agents.
    >> The elections were characterised by confusion, intimidation, voter
    >> bribery and death.
    >>
    >> At least two people were confirmed dead including Charles Awany, a UPC
    >> party mobiliser, who was knocked dead by a speeding vehicle at Loro
    >> Trading Centre on Lira-Kamdini highway.
    >>
    >>
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