The facts be told ..it is some of this some fellow buganda citizens who knaived with Museveni to launch the war in Luwero. Here in we recall the activities of wakina Cardinal Nsubuga who were involved in clandestine nocturnal activities to under mine the UPC Government... how then can Nsubuga today claim that UPC is to blame for the calamities which have happened in Uganda under the NRM Military dictatorship and is yet to happen even further.. Nsubuga yours is rather a useless lamentations from a none entity!! with this kind of Buganda thinking.. no wonder some are promising to crash the Buganda like pea nuts!!!! Matek
oryema johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Charles Kibuka wrote: > > > > First of all, you people must stop preaching to us > about the achievements of your party because they > fall shot of even what pre-historic Uganda of the 15 > century had to offer. Once you do that, you will not > hear from us. Secondly, democracy OJ style, allows > him to keep on mad slinging other political > organizations, but in my world, democracy is about > appreciating difference. In any war theater, there > will be casualties, but 90% of all the skulls in > Luwero and other parts of Uganda at the time, will > always hang on your heads. You're directly > responsible for the massacre and the disintegration > of the Buganda kingdom. You're also directly > responsible for all the troubles of Uganda. As for > the killings that have been going on in Acholi land > for the last 20 years, UPC shares the problem 50-50 > with NRM. > > You handed over Uganda on a silver plate to Museveni > your selves by neglecting its people. After rigging > your selves to power, was this the best you could do > to us? Having said that, where in my email did I say > that UPC will never ever rule Uganda again? What is > wrong with you learned people? can't you tell the > difference between, "it will take a very, very long > time" and "Never, ever again", even although I know > this could take up to at least 300 years?. I have > very important and serious questions for you here > sir. Why did an entire Uganda army that was well > equipped fail to contain a ram shackled NRA? How > could they operate only a few miles from the capital > and not get flashed out? What else do you have left > in store to offer the people of Uganda that you > forgot the other two times? Stop making cheap > excuses that Obote was over thrown prematurely, he > was politically bankrupt. > > He was just a useless president, not to have learnt > any lessons the first time he was overthrown. We > could hand an A-K47 rifle to Mr. Bean and it would > be a walk over overthrowing a UPC government for the > third time. As for you Mr. Mulindwa, what makes you > think that I should answer your questions of all > people to prove whether or not am smarter than you? > This is a jock! that is all I have to say to you. > Just so you know, unlike you, I do travel to Uganda > three times a year, and I'm well informed about the > situation on the ground. This is for you OJ, I was > in Uganda during the presidential campaigns, and I > did attend some Miria's campaigns. She did get quite > a few nguli drinkers here and there, but even then, > 90% of them where always sleeping as she addressed > them. they always woke up hours later asking whether > she has left them some money for more nguli. > > You're not going to fool any body here. You can as > well take your pokopoko where it belongs, and you > know where. > > John Nsubuga > > > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:18:24 -0700> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DON'T QUESTION THE > LEGITIMACY OF FDC (OKELLO LUCIMA)> To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Charles,> > > The title of your posting alone gives your party > away.> When you tell people not question the > legitimacy of> your party, you are preaching the > undemocratic> principles we are all used to when > these born-again> political leaders finally get into > office.> > I gently like to correct you that Buganda > is not the> whole of Uganda. Uganda is a country of > 31 million> people now. The Never ever again thing > should be> preached in Buganda and not beyond its > borders. The> only people who have said that Never > ever again thing> with authority and I believe them > are the Jews. They> have demonstrated that resolve > since the Jewish state> was established 40 some > years ago. And they are saying> so as a state, as a > nation. You are making a> pronouncement as an > individual.> > Moral people do not take the killing > of innocent> people lightly. No one takes the > killings that took> place in Luweero lightly. But to > be telling people> every morning they wake up that > UPC killed people in> Luweero is mocking the dead.> > > I would also take you seriously if the Luweero > people> were not killed in vain. Your government > with its> affiliate branch the FDC has been in power > for 21> years and all you can show for it is Kony > and 1.5> million people in a camp fed and treated by > the> international community.> > Forget this Mulago > thing, let us focus on what the two> parties FDC and > NRM will do tomorrow after 21 years of> failure. You > are talking about UPC's failure which> includes > killings in Luweero. What about the killings> of > innocent people in the North? Are those being done> > by UPC too? When are you going to send your people > to> collect their skulls and put them on display > since> that is their specialty. We are talking about > getting> away from the past, how is that going to be > achieved> if we have people like you whose heads are > burried in> it 24/7 and 360 days a year.> > > Tulabye.> > OJ> > > --- Edward Mulindwa > wrote:> > > Ugandans> > > > It is > so amazing how any one lists the skulls of UPC> > > chairmen their wives children and supporters of> > > Luwero, to have been killed by UPC. That is where> > > this entire reasoning looses the juice it so> > > deserves. Can any political party really walk into> > > constituencies killing its own people? Now when > you> > respond to that one then you are smarter than > my> > self. So to those of us that were in the > middle of> > the Luwero war, a people that know > those who were> > murdered not by those people but > by their names, we> > are being informed that a man > like the justice of> > Katikamu, the Police Officer > that was living in> > Katikamu, the family of Mr > Kisaalita a village UPC> > chairman, all that were > murdered that single night,> > were killed by UNLA. > Are we this dum?> > > > > > Oh and Charles Kibuuka > suppose your writing is true,> > and suppose all > constituencies in the entire Buganda> > refuse to > elect even a single candidate of such a> > party. Do > you know that that same party can win an> > election > of Uganda and with a majority? Look at the> > > constituencies Uganda has and very closely before> > > you throw your never ever again. But you see you> > > cannot do that for as Uganda papers were writing> > > that Maama Miria can never go to Luwero during the> > > campaigns, the Luwerorians were pleading with her> > > managers to come and address them.> > > > Charles > Kibuuka you are way un informed about the> > Uganda > of 2007.> > > > EM> > Visby Gotland> > > > > > The > Mulindwas Communication Group> > "With Yoweri > Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"> > Groupe de > communication Mulindwas > > "avec Yoweri Museveni, > l'Ouganda est dans> > l'anarchie"> > > > ----- > Original Message ----- > > From: Charles Kibuka > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: > Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:03 AM> > Subject: DON'T > QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF FDC> > (OKELLO LUCIMA)> > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Okello Lucima> > > > History has > proved UPC not once, but twice as a> > failed > organization on all front. It will also judge> > > this party based on this very proof. Here you go> > > again Mr. Okello, as most UPC members best know > how,> > praise and praise UPC, as if their life > depends on> > it. I must hasten to say however, that > yours was> > molded carefully, to try and conceal > the usual> > preaching's we're so used to, but the > undergrowth> > was not tall enough I guess. Until it > comes to mind> > that the party you represent in > Canada, did wrong> > Ugandans gravely, and the > Baganda for that matter,> > you should forget about > ever forming a government in> > that country in a > very, very long time. Ugandans are> > very angry and > traumatized people, and I have said> > this on > numerous occasions, that it will take more> > than > just the usual "UPC built Mulago hospital"> > > rhetoric, to move people's feelings from the red, > to> > green. How do I delete the more than 100.000 > skulls> > of Luwero from my head so soon with out > your help?> > To me, this is as vivid as yesterday. > > > > > I'm not here to arouse or provoke negative> > > sentiments, the truth is, Museveni was single> > > handedly molded and handed power on a silver plate> > > by the UPC government. Let us desist from playing> > > politics and be truthful, but also emphatic to > both> > our selves, and the entire country. Your > party> > completely abandoned the people of Uganda, > and more> > so the Baganda in 1966 and then again in > 1980 on> > wards. They had no choice but to attach > them selves> > to the devil dressed as an angel to > save them selves> > at the time. Blaming the people > therefore is very> > hopeless, for the population is > supposed to be led,> > and once their is no > leadership, they will look some> > where else. They > were constantly prayed upon by the> > ruthless and > uncouth soldiers of both the two> > generals Amin > and Oyite Ojok. It is very> > disheartening that NO > one in UPC has ever openly and> > truthfully > apologized for these mistakes. All you> > will hear > about is the UPC is this and UPC is that,> > and UPC > will do this. What else does UPC have left> > in > store for Ugandans that they could not deliver> > > twice when they occupied Nakasero? Most Ugandans of> > > today are above average, unlike those of > yesterday,> > and they can no longer be taken for a > joy ride as it> > so was then. > > > > There is > information every where, and it will> > trickle down > to that village peasants via his mobile> > phone, > and you will be rejected again, and again.> > Please > be informed. If I was to choose, I would> > rather > hang on to this dictator Museveni, because he> > > kills you slowly like Aids does. However, he gives> > > you time to dig your own grave, the opportunity > to> > make your will, but also contact Uganda > funeral> === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ugandans at Heart" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Ugandans-at-Heart?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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