Abbey,
I strongly disagree with you on that. The question of Zimbabwe is not about
dictatorship; the question of Zimbabwe is about the domination of the economy
and land by a handful of whites. Zimbabwe achieved independent as a result of
the Lancaster agreement, where the land question was hammered out. And Britain
was supposed to fund the "Willing buyer" "Willing Seller" deal. As it turned
out, no white farmer was "Willing" to sell "their" so called "land". And
Britain? It was renaging on the agreement. Therefore, Zimbabweans were
basically heading nowhere! The whites, including Britain were simply buying
time so Mugabe eventually depart the scene without Zimbabwean land are returned
to their rightful owners!
Get your facts straight and stop arguing from ignorant position. Africans
cannot call for military intervention in Zimbabwe. You might be the only
African, together with that Ugandan bishop/priest in London; what is his name?
Isn't he a muganda?. Stop being too much opportunits!
Ocii
Abbey Semuwemba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Brother Gewaya,
This is one hell of a dictator who does not deserve to be in power at the
moment. Mugabes speech made a good impression on those that know a half the
truth of what is going on in Zimbabwe. This man has killed his political
opponents and civilians. Just speak to Zimbabweans coming from Matebeleland,
they will tell you the full story of this murderer and liar. He formed an army
unit called the 5 Brigade (Gukurahundi) in 1983, probably an equivalent of
black Mambas in Uganda, to kill and torture people in Matabeleland. This
killing was referred by some Mugabe supporters as sweeping away of rubbish
.He governs the country like it is his personal property. Villagers used to be
made to sing songs in the shona language praising ZANU-PF while dancing on the
mass graves of their families and fellow villagers killed and buried minutes
earlier. A string of massacres have occurred throughout mugabes rule. Mugabe
himself once remarked while in Matebeleland:Dont cry if your
relatives get killed in the process
..Where men and women provide food for the
dissidents, when we get there we eradicate them. I have got no mercy for any
dictator in the world. They dont deserve to be any where in the world. They
kill people they are supposed to protect and that is bogus leadership which
should not be tolerated any where on the planet earth. Every body should be
free and happy in their own countries. What did Africans do to God to deserve
these different kinds of animals as our presidents? Every one should be free to
speak, dance, travel, eat and enjoy while in Uganda or Zimbabwe. We should have
freedom in our own countries without any personal oriented hindrances.
The truth is African governments are not going to do anything to help the zim
people because they are almost the same. I also doubt whether the people of
Zimbabwe have got the balls to change things in their own country. That leaves
the only option of foreign interference. Sanctions are not going to help at all
and Im not supporting them. Sanctions never affect dictators in power. That is
why Im supporting any sane African requesting the likes of Britain, France or
USA to intervene militarily in Zimbabwe. The AU is not going to change things
in Zimbabwe. Actually, I have even started questioning its existence if it
cannot help get rid of this mad man in Zimbabwe. They (AU people) all just keep
holding meetings with folded hands and that is it. President Mbekis silent
diplomacy has been going on for 7 years but wapi. The solution is now military
intervention and we should all campaign for it.
Abbey
GOD BLESS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oryema johnson
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: THE TEXT OF PRESIDENT MUGABE'S SPEECH AT 62ND SESSION
Gawaya,
The only leader out of Africa who can talk with moral authority is comrade
Nelson Mandela. Mugabe, might have taken a whole year to prepare his speech,
and he presented it with firmness, but that does not grant him immunity for
the crimes he has committed in Zimbabwe since his so-called war of liberation
ended. Mugabe has eliminated or put in jail some of the very comrades who slept
in trenches for years to make Zimbabwe free.
There is a difference between Bush and Mugabe. America has gone overseas
mostly after bad people and regimes and poverty in America is minimal compared
to Zimbabwe. Some of the best speeches are or have been given by the most
brutal leaders. Hitler and Starlin were all known as great speakers. Fidel
Castro speaks very well and in fact has broken a record with the longest speech
at the same UN. But that has not prevented him from abusing his own people and
keeping them in abject poverty. His people have done better in Florida, than
Havana.
Zimbabweans in London are buying food for their families in Harare through
grocery stores in London and notifying them to pick it up through British in
Harare. Bush has not bitten his democratic rivals to near death like Mugabe has
done with his opponents. Mugabe must correct his image first at home, or he
should simply shut up and get the hell out of New York.
OJ
Gawaya Tegulle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Folks,
Whatever Mugabe's demerits and so on, you will all
agree that this is a classic speech; one that will be
remembered for hundreds of years to come.
This is ingenuity of the best kind, albeit
headquartered in Dubious City.
Orators don't come better than this.
He is not a man to be liked, but we must, hats off,
applaud his genius.
--- oryema johnson wrote:
>
> I hope no sensible African cheers Mugabe on this
> one. This is a preemptive step the dictator took to
> avoid being attack for his homemade abuse of power
> and human rights for over two decades. This is the
> type of speech Amin or his like would have given at
> the UN too to cover their dirt at home. It is a
> shame that a man like Mugabe is given an
> international podium to lecture to the world on how
> we should govern ourselves. If the entire world were
> to rule the way he does, there would have been no
> humans left on this earth. Shame on the bastard!
> OJ
>
>
> gr akanga wrote:
>
> ext of President Robert Mugabe's speech at 62nd
> Session of UN General Assembly
> ________________________________
> Statement by His Excellency the President of the
> Republic of
> Zimbabwe, Comrade R. G. Mugabe, on the occasion of
> the 62nd Session of
> the United Nations General Assembly, New York, 26
> September, 2007
> ________________________________
> Last updated: 09/27/2007 05:30:13
> Your Excellency, President of the 62ndSession of the
> United Nations
> General Assembly,
> Mr. Srgjan Kerim,
>
> Your Majesties,
>
> Your Excellencies, Heads of State and Government,
>
> Your Excellency the Secretary-General of the United
> Nations, Mr. Ban Ki-Moon,
>
> Distinguished Delegates,
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen.
>
> Mr. President,
>
> Allow me to congratulate you on your election to
> preside over this
> august assembly. We are confident that through your
> stewardship,
> issues on this 62nd Session agenda be dealt with in
> a balanced manner
> and to the satisfaction of all.
>
> Let me also pay tribute to your predecessor, Madame
> Sheikha Haya
> Rashed Al Khalifa, who steered the work of the 61st
> Session in a very
> competent and impartial manner.
>
> Her ability to identify the crucial issues facing
> the world today will
> be remembered as the hallmark of her presidency.
>
> Mr. President,
>
> We extend our hearty welcome to the new
> Secretary-General, Mr. Ban
> Ki-Moon, who has taken up this challenging job
> requiting dynamism in
> confronting the global challenges of the 21st
> Century. Balancing
> global interests and steering the United Nations in
> a direction that
> gives hope to the multitudes of the poor, the sick,
> the hungry and the
> marginalized, is indeed a mammoth task. We would
> like to assure him
> that Zimbabwe will continue to support an open,
> transparent and
> all-inclusive multilateral approach in dealing with
> these global
> challenges.
>
> Mr. President,
>
> Climate change is one of the most pressing global
> issues of our time.
> Its negative impact is greatest in developing
> countries, particularly
> those on the African continent. We believe that if
> the international
> community is going to seriously address the
> challenges of climate
> change, then we need to get our priorities right. In
> Zimbabwe, the
> effects of climate change have become more evident
> in the past decade
> as we have witnessed increased and recurrent
> droughts as well as
> occasional floods, leading to enormous humanitarian
> challenges.
>
> Mr. President,
>
> We are for a United Nations that recognises the
> equality of sovereign
> nations and peoples whether big or small. We are
> averse to a body in
> which the economically and militarily powerful
> behave like bullies,
> trampling on the rights of weak and smaller states
> as sadly happened
> in Iraq. In the light of these inauspicious
> developments, this
> Organisation must surely examine the essence of its
> authority and the
> extent of its power when challenged in this manner.
>
> Such challenges to the authority of the UN and its
> Charter underpin
> our repeated call for the revitalisation of the
> United Nations General
> Assembly, itself the most representative organ of
> the UN. The General
> Assembly should be more active in all areas
> including those of peace
> and security. The encroachment of some U.N. organs
> upon the work of
> the General Assembly is of great concern to us. Thus
> any process of
> revitalizing or strengthening of the General
> Assembly should
> necessarily avoid eroding the principle of the
> accountability of all
> principal and subsidiary organs to the General
> Assembly.
>
> Mr. President,
>
> Once again we reiterate our position that the
> Security Council as
> presently constituted is not democratic. In its
> present configuration,
> the Council has shown that it is not in a position
> to protect the
> weaker states who find themselves at loggerheads
> with a marauding
> super-power. Most importantly, justice demands that
> any Security
> Council reform redresses the fact that Africa is the
> only continent
> without a permanent seat and veto power in the
> Security Council.
> Africa's demands are known and enunciated in the
> Ezulwini consensus.
>
> Mr. President,
>
> We further call for the U.N. system to refrain from
> interfering in
> matters that are clearly the domain of member states
> and are not a
> threat to international peace and security.
> Development at country
> level should continue to be country-led, and not
> subject to the whims
> of powerful donor states.
>
> Mr President,
>
> Zimbabwe won its independence on 18th April, 1980,
> after a protracted
> war against British colonial imperialism which
> denied us human rights
> and democracy. That colonial system which suppressed
> and oppressed us
> enjoyed the support of many countries of the West
> who were signatories
> to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
>
> Even after 1945, it would appear that the Berlin
> Conference of 1884,
> through which Africa was parcelled to colonial
> European powers,
> remained stronger than the Universal Declaration of
> Human Rights. It
> is therefore clear that for the West, vested
> economic interests,
> racial and ethnocentric considerations proved
> stronger than their
> adherence to principles of the Universal Declaration
> of Human Rights.
>
> The West still negates our sovereignties by way of
> control of our
> resources, in the process making us mere chattels in
> out own lands,
> mere minders of its trans-national interests. In my
> own country and
> other sister states in Southern Africa, the most
> visible
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Phone 256-782-285999
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