Jose Lukyamuzi "When time comes, those names are what we will need, for rule of law to take its course. I will be one of those who will advocate for firing squad, if an individual actions contributed to the deaths of many wananchi. Watch this space. -Ocii."
This is the good spirit we need in Uganda for it is not an eye for an eye. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Besigye meets Ogole And where will that live you? How do you plan to escape the "eye for an eye" thereafter? As long as you are in Uganda, I mean the new Uganda, rest assured you can only act on a person when it is proven beyond reasonable doubt the person committed the said crime(s) that currently exist in your head, forcing you to called those you dislike "lumpens" and "fools". But if you are going to driven by hate, like Mu7 was driven by hate towards Northerners and Easterners, then you are better of going to school to learn more lessons before you find yourself face to face with an "eye for an eye"! Ocii jose lukyamuzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I ever meet any lumpen who killed our people on Kampala streets and he refuses to apologise then you Kateregga will have news to write about bcoz we are going no where when people cant own up for their mistakes and wrong doing. In fact handling these fools with kids gloves will set a very bad precedent to those in power as per now so I think an eye for an eye is necessary in some cases. Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are not on hearsay but i eyewitnessed testimonies by the people of Luwero. It was state sponsored violence. The main killers were Ogole and Ahmed Ogeny. I saw Ogeny testfying before the commission. Hadn't Obote rigged election in his favour and re-imposed himself on the people of Uganda, there would not have been killings in Luwero Triangle and possibly West Nile. Obote therefore takes responsibility but the Ogoles and Ogenys of this world were massively implicated by the evidence given by volunteers. Museveni came to arrest the situation and NRA identified itself with the people. This is well documented. But if Ogole apologises and asks for amnesty, he may be pardoned for there are many other killers i always see in Kampala whom the state and society have pardoned. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole It's Museveni who buthered you folks in Luwero - FACT. Accept it or shut up. Ogole's apology is not required. He would be an asshole to apologise unless desparation and senile dementia are creeping in. Has Museveni ever apologized about the obvious? ___________________________ ----- Original Message ---- From: Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:58:33 AM Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole Col.John Ogole was the butcher of Luwero. Ask Wafula Ogutu he wll tell you. He must apologise for the atrocities he committed and he must seek amnesty. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Paul Mivumba To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: Besigye meets Ogole 'I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is a Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview yesterday.' I think this is "Nugu" that Besigye upstaged them. Does Besigye need to be representing anybody to meet Ogole or anybody else? Is it only government that can meet exiles? -------------- Army, MPs welcome Ogole- Besigye meeting HUSSEIN BOGERE, YASIIN MUGERWA & MERCY NALUGO KAMPALA THE London reconciliatory meeting between Colonels Kizza Besigye and John Ogole has received a nod of approval from a section of Ugandans. Col. Ogole and Dr Besigye met in London last Sunday. Former bush war commander Lt Gen Elly Tumwine said Col Ogole is welcome to Uganda, although he wondered in whose capacity opposition leader Dr Besigye met Col Ogole. "I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is a Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview yesterday. The UPDF spokesman, Maj Felix Kulayigye said reconciliation was not a new concept. "We have passed out 77 former LRA rebels. Nobody has been harassed. It is an old concept to absorb our adversaries," he said. "When we capture you, you either join us or you go home. There is the example of Maj. Gen. Julius Oketa who was a Lieutenant when he joined us. We don't need lessons. It has been our modus operandi on a non-combat avenue." At Parliament, Chwa MP, Livingstone Okello-Okello commended the move saying it was a new gesture that Uganda needs to embrace. Oyam South MP, Ishaa Otto said Col Ogole and Dr Besigye's meeting is welcome in the interest of peace and reconciliation. "This is what Ugandans need to hear. How long are we going to hate each other? President Yoweri Museveni should learn from this," the legislator said. Kawempe South MP and DP member Ssebuliba Mutumba was amazed to see the man who inflicted most casualties on the NRA in the Luweero bush war happily reconciled with Dr Besigye. "It is a sign of optimism towards a united nation. We need to teach our leaders that detestation cannot take us forward," he said. Bunyaruguru MP Gaudioso Tindamanyire said the NRM had not prevented anybody from coming back to Uganda. "We welcome everybody because it is the cornerstone of the government that cherishes tolerance," he said. Peter Claver Mutuluuza (Mawokota MP) however dismissed Col. Ogole as "expired and therefore cannot be a threat to the established NRM government." His views were echoed by Robert Byabashaija (Youth Western) who said Dr Besigye and Ogole's reconciliation cannot take the NRM by surprise. The opposition shadow minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Reagan Okumu (Aswa County) added a twist to the meeting, saying there was nothing personal about Dr Besigye and Col. Ogole's meeting. "The only difference between the two was during the bush war where they believed in different leaders. They became enemies by extension and any reconciliation is secondary because a primary one should be between Besigye and Obote and between Ogole and Museveni," he said. Jimmy Akena, son to former President Dr Milton Obote whose government Col. Ogole served declined to comment on the matter. Col. Ogole, a top commander of UNLA forces under the late Milton Obote inflicted most casualities on the then rebel National Resistance Army led by President Museveni, after the mysterious death of Brig. Oyite Ojok. In his book, 'Sowing the Mustard Seed', President Museveni mentions several battles between his rag-tag army and the UNLF led by Col. Ogole. "Meanwhile, the UNLA force led by Ogole was desperately chasing us, trying to make us jettison our equipment.when we were about to start moving, he attacked us at Birembo with artillery and Katyusha rockets. We managed to repulse him, but we lost five of our boys." President Museveni recounted. http://www.monitor.co.ug/news/news10114.php -- "Blessed are those that expected nothing. 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