Jose Lukyamuzi

"When time comes, those names are what we will need, for rule of law to take 
its course. I will be one of those who will advocate for firing squad, if an 
individual actions contributed to the deaths of many wananchi. Watch this 
space. -Ocii."

This is the good spirit we need in Uganda for it is not an eye for an eye.

EM
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ocii 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net 
  Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:14 PM
  Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Besigye meets Ogole


  And where will that live you? How do you plan to escape the "eye for an eye" 
thereafter? 

  As long as you are in Uganda, I mean the new Uganda, rest assured you can 
only act on a person when it is proven beyond reasonable doubt the person 
committed the said crime(s) that currently exist in your head, forcing you to 
called those you dislike "lumpens" and "fools". 

  But if you are going to driven by hate, like Mu7 was driven by hate towards 
Northerners and Easterners, then you are better of going to school to learn 
more lessons before you find yourself face to face with an "eye for an eye"!

  Ocii



  jose lukyamuzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
           If I ever meet any lumpen who killed our people on Kampala streets 
and he refuses to apologise then you Kateregga will have news to write about 
bcoz we are going no where when people cant own up for their mistakes and wrong 
doing. In fact handling these fools with kids gloves will set a very bad 
precedent to those in power as per now so I think an eye for an eye is 
necessary in some cases.

    Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
      We are not on hearsay but i eyewitnessed testimonies by the people of 
Luwero. It was state sponsored violence. The main killers were Ogole and Ahmed 
Ogeny. I saw Ogeny testfying before the commission. Hadn't Obote rigged 
election in his favour and re-imposed himself on the people of Uganda, there 
would not have been killings in Luwero Triangle and possibly West Nile. Obote 
therefore takes responsibility but the Ogoles and Ogenys of this world were 
massively implicated by the evidence given by volunteers.
      Museveni came to arrest the situation and NRA identified itself with the 
people. This is well documented. But if Ogole apologises and asks for amnesty, 
he may be pardoned for there are many other killers i always see in Kampala 
whom the state and society have pardoned.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto 
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:32 PM
        Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole



        It's Museveni who buthered you folks in Luwero - FACT. Accept it or 
shut up. Ogole's apology is not required. He would be an asshole to apologise 
unless desparation and senile dementia are creeping in. Has Museveni ever 
apologized about the obvious?
         

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        ----- Original Message ----
        From: Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:58:33 AM
        Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole


        Col.John Ogole was the butcher of Luwero. Ask Wafula Ogutu he wll tell 
you. He must apologise for the atrocities he committed and he must seek amnesty.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Jean Paul Mivumba 
          To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
          Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:03 PM
          Subject: Besigye meets Ogole


          'I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is 
a Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. 
Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview 
yesterday.'


          I think this is "Nugu" that  Besigye upstaged them. Does  Besigye 
need to be representing anybody to meet Ogole or anybody else? Is it only 
government that can meet exiles? 
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                Army, MPs welcome Ogole- Besigye meeting 
                HUSSEIN BOGERE, YASIIN MUGERWA & MERCY NALUGO 
                KAMPALA 
                THE London reconciliatory meeting between Colonels Kizza 
Besigye and John Ogole has received a nod of approval from a section of 
Ugandans. 
                Col. Ogole and Dr Besigye met in London last Sunday. 

                Former bush war commander Lt Gen Elly Tumwine said Col Ogole is 
welcome to Uganda, although he wondered in whose capacity opposition leader Dr 
Besigye met Col Ogole. 
                "I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) 
Ogole is a Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," 
Lt. Gen. Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone 
interview yesterday.

                The UPDF spokesman, Maj Felix Kulayigye said reconciliation was 
not a new concept. 
                "We have passed out 77 former LRA rebels. Nobody has been 
harassed. It is an old concept to absorb our adversaries," he said. 

                "When we capture you, you either join us or you go home. There 
is the example of Maj. Gen. Julius Oketa who was a Lieutenant when he joined 
us. We don't need lessons. It has been our modus operandi on a non-combat 
avenue." 

                At Parliament, Chwa MP, Livingstone Okello-Okello commended the 
move saying it was a new gesture that Uganda needs to embrace. 

                Oyam South MP, Ishaa Otto said Col Ogole and Dr Besigye's 
meeting is welcome in the interest of peace and reconciliation. "This is what 
Ugandans need to hear. How long are we going to hate each other? President 
Yoweri Museveni should learn from this," the legislator said. 

                Kawempe South MP and DP member Ssebuliba Mutumba was amazed to 
see the man who inflicted most casualties on the NRA in the Luweero bush war 
happily reconciled with Dr Besigye. 

                "It is a sign of optimism towards a united nation. We need to 
teach our leaders that detestation cannot take us forward," he said.
                Bunyaruguru MP Gaudioso Tindamanyire said the NRM had not 
prevented anybody from coming back to Uganda. 

                "We welcome everybody because it is the cornerstone of the 
government that cherishes tolerance," he said. 

                Peter Claver Mutuluuza (Mawokota MP) however dismissed Col. 
Ogole as "expired and therefore cannot be a threat to the established NRM 
government."
                His views were echoed by Robert Byabashaija (Youth Western) who 
said Dr Besigye and Ogole's reconciliation cannot take the NRM by surprise.

                The opposition shadow minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Reagan 
Okumu (Aswa County) added a twist to the meeting, saying there was nothing 
personal about Dr Besigye and Col. Ogole's meeting.

                "The only difference between the two was during the bush war 
where they believed in different leaders. They became enemies by extension and 
any reconciliation is secondary because a primary one should be between Besigye 
and Obote and between Ogole and Museveni," he said.

                Jimmy Akena, son to former President Dr Milton Obote whose 
government Col. Ogole served declined to comment on the matter. 
                Col. Ogole, a top commander of UNLA forces under the late 
Milton Obote inflicted most casualities on the then rebel National Resistance 
Army led by President Museveni, after the mysterious death of Brig. Oyite Ojok. 

                In his book, 'Sowing the Mustard Seed', President Museveni 
mentions several battles between his rag-tag army and the UNLF led by Col. 
Ogole. 

                "Meanwhile, the UNLA force led by Ogole was desperately chasing 
us, trying to make us jettison our equipment.when we were about to start 
moving, he attacked us at Birembo with artillery and Katyusha rockets. We 
managed to repulse him, but we lost five of our boys." President Museveni 
recounted. 
          http://www.monitor.co.ug/news/news10114.php
          -- 
          "Blessed are those that expected nothing. They will not be 
disappointed."

          
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