Ssalongo Ssenoga What other things have you done to prepare for that separation? Oh I see you will do all of it after separation. We need Museveni to leave power and today. Okay what have you done in preparation for his departure from Office? No we will do all that as soon as he goes but he must leave power and today. Now I am contented I am in a true Uganda forum that build all its houses by structuring out a roof first. The foundation? No No No don't worry about the foundation we will worry about that as soon as the roof is structured out and Amabaaati on top of the roof and nailed in.
It is bleating indeed !!!! EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ssalongo Ssennoga Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {UAH} George:Tribalism Is Not a Horror Movie. It Is A Horror Reality. Stewart, I hear you and love you for it. I love the bleating bit too! I once moved that we kick this noise Buganda out of Uganda and have some peace. Whats there to lose? Its a price for peace we should be in position to pay. Villager On 6/21/12, Pyerarama <[email protected]> wrote: > > Folks, > There is no problem using Luganda any where, my concern is one, in > some instances, when national (Ugandan) issues are being addressed, > example (Celebration of Uganda Independence day on 9th October), folks > who originates from Buganda says they are not part of it because > Buganda got theirs on 8th October, that implies Buganda is a seperate > nation all together, yet when it comes to national (Uganda) language, > they want Luganda to be for Ugandans, NOT Buganda only, SO, NOW THAT > BUGANDA KINGDOM IS A NATION AND LUGANDA IS SPOKEN THROUGH OUT BUGANDA > NATION (National Language of some sorts), why bleat about imposing it > on other nations > (Uganda) as a whole??????????? can't you be contented that the nation > of Buganda uses Luganda as official language of communication??? and > then kindly let the issue of "national language" rest in peace. > > Thanks > Stewart > > > > > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:24:13 PM UTC+2, MULYAZZAWO TIMPULA wrote: >> >> >> >> *Sseruganda Mr. Ssemuwemba, munange thank you for such a sensible >> deliberation. Let those who wish to be identified as Ugandans >> continue to >> >> do so. Speak a language proudly which identifies you as Ugandan. >> Developing >> a language as Baganda have done for years with Luganda is not easy >> and we >> >> do not force any one to speak it but if Uganda is to ever choose a >> native >> >> language as a national language then it will always be Luganda. * >> >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Abbey Semuwemba >> <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Mr.Okello, >>> >>> Iam a good Ugandan and you owe me an apology. OK, here are four >>> items I was able to come up with off the top of my head, where you >>> have wrongly accused me but you never apologize: >>> >>> 1.You wrote something here that indicated that I was a member of >>> UPCnet yet I have never been a member. To be honest, I even dont >>> wish to be; >>> >>> 2.You also wrote here stating that I fought alongside Museveni in >>> the bushes of Luwero, and that Im a known NRM, something that is >>> absolutely >>> >>> wrong. >>> >>> 3.Now you have written that I said Baganda are superior to your >>> tribe, but I will try to tackle your latest accusations in the best >>> way possible, because I know why you have dragged an old debate into >>> this one. >>> >>> Let me start with the statement I probably made and which you have >>> quoted >>> >>> below: *"Here in the UK, the only sure way you can get to know >>> whether someone is a Ugandan is when you hear them speaking >>> Luganda".* >>> >>> The above opinion isn't just mine; it is the opinion of just about >>> anyone >>> >>> who ever tried to be part of any group in diaspora. For instance, >>> try to >>> >>> speak to Ugandans that attend parties, conferences, weddings, . in >>> both UK and USA, they will tell you that the most common medium of >>> communication on such events is Luganda. Forget about the speeches >>> some people make in English but the real language of interaction >>> during such events is Luganda, my friend. Because you confessed that >>> you dont know how to speak Luganda, I think it becomes difficult >>> for you to know whether people around you are speaking it or not. At >>> the end of the day, those Ugandans around you have >>> >>> recognized your problem and that is why they speak with you in >>> either English or some other language you understand (if you know any). >>> >>> If they're using a language which is syntactically different from >>> Standard Luganda or English, then, the theory goes, the people that >>> have >>> >>> met on such an occasion are mainly from the same tribe. For example, >>> I have been on parties here in the UK that are dominated by >>> Banyarwanda, and the >>> >>> main language of interaction there is Lunyarwanda. I never complain >>> at all though i rarely dance in circles as they do. >>> >>> Theorizing in that context does not mean that I undermine other >>> tribes or >>> >>> their languages because I have always judged people for who they >>> are, not >>> >>> what tribe they are, but it means that there is a language other >>> than English that is more popular among Ugandans abroad and home. >>> >>> Secondly, thank you for admitting that you are using your own >>> personal and past experience towards Baganda to make an argument >>> against Luganda and anything Buganda, and not using the intent of >>> the big picture as it should, to make a case against Luganda and >>> Baganda. All your statements against Luganda have been about: being >>> dumped by a Muganda girl in the past while in Buddo.S.S, Baganda >>> feeling superior, your father training you and the rest of the >>> family not to speak Luganda, but you dont seem to make a >>> credible case at all. Yet you rush to use awful words against others >>> such >>> as: stupid', 'obtuse', 'silly' , . which is basically >>> unnecessary in >>> >>> this debate but we shall help you learn how to maturely respect >>> others in >>> >>> debates inishallah. >>> >>> One thing for sure: you seem to love the English language than any >>> language in Africa which is a bit absurd. It starts, in part, from >>> your failure to recognize that these debates are issues of national >>> importance >>> >>> to pan-Africanists not some Malwa talk. You also fail to recognise >>> that >>> >>> Uganda is a very special place such that we should learn to >>> recognize our >>> >>> own uniqueness; not meekly fall prey to playing ethnic sock-puppet >>> games >>> >>> for the rest of the tribalists! >>> >>> Most of all, we for sure should stop attacking each other over an >>> issue that makes sense to anyone who wants to see it as sensible. >>> Honestly, why >>> >>> would anyone hate Luganda as a national language unless if they have >>> got >>> >>> some issues against Baganda? But the BIG question is: why would >>> anyone let such small talk get in the way of the big picture. The >>> big picture here is to find a native language that will define us as >>> Ugandans. >>> >>> Yes, i recognize that we all have differences in skin color, >>> different shades, different tribes, and cultures but this should >>> have no bearing on >>> >>> our decision to deciding a national language. >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Abbey >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM, george okello <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My friend Abbey SEMU. >>>> >>>> This is the statement you made: >>>> >>>> "Here in the UK, the only sure way you can get to know whether some >>>> one is a Ugandan is when you hear them speaking Luganda". >>>> >>>> This surely is the most obnoxious, ill-informed and stupid >>>> statement I have ever read on this forum. With statements like >>>> these, can't you see you are turning the rest of Ugandans against the Baganda? >>>> >>>> The UK has a huge Ugandan population but just a few of them speak >>>> luganda. I don't speak any luganda at all, my children don't speak >>>> it, my extended family don't speakit , most of my Ugandan friends >>>> here in London don't speak any luganda yet they are identified as >>>> Ugandans. I have lived in the UK for almost 20 years, and everyone >>>> knows me as a Ugandan. I don't have to speak luganda to be >>>> identified as Ugandan >>>> >>>> Please don't make very stupid, obtuse and extremely silly >>>> statements like the one above, as a moderator of this forum. You >>>> are somehow intimating that to be Ugandan, you have to speak >>>> luganda. This is not the case at all, and I have lived in the UK >>>> longer than you have. I have actually collaborated on a study on >>>> ethnic languages and ethnicity in the UK in schools, among Ugandan >>>> pupils and our study revealed, of Ugandan children, about only 15% >>>> spoke luganda, and the rest spoke other Ugandan languages. >>>> >>>> You are deluding yourself when you aggresively try to promote >>>> luganda as a "national language". When you make a statement such >>>> as the above, you make yourself totally ridiculous, and harden the >>>> feelings of those who are against the luganda language. >>>> >>>> George O. Pacu-Otto >>>> >>>> -- >>>> UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in >>>> general. 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