A Kabaka must be born of a woman who belongs to one of the Buganda clans
Frank Mujabi
Now where does this statement put Ssemakokiro exactly? And what about all
those that took the streets of UAH of now we have a Mulangira to replace
Ssabassajja in case !!!! One needs to follow this conversation for a time to
realize how very convoluted it is indeed.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Mujabi
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} did not commit any crimes, Dr. Milton Obote insists
Laduma
Everybody in Buganda takes his father's clan EXCEPT the children of a
reigning King.
Those children ( boys and girls) take the clans of their mothers.
Since the Kabaka is the head of all clans it follows that a Kabaka must
belong to one of the kiganda tribes.
ergo; A Kabaka must be born of a woman who belongs to one of the Buganda
clans
Any clan can have a Kabaka and no one clan has a monopoly
Unless the brothers of a Kabaka are of the same clan as him, they
are not his brothers in a clan sense.
No 'Balangira ' clan can evolve since they are of different clans
anyway.
.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:06 PM, gaumoy nockrach-laduma
<[email protected]> wrote:
Bobby, the thing with crime or no crime of Ugandan politicians is that
it always and at all times depend on which side one is, unfortunately!!
Now on another note (out of curiosity), you say: "Baganda are a patrilineal
society and the kids generally take the tribe of the father."
I wonder why nobles or Kabakas are excluded from this. I do not know the
reality but
I recall reading it here on UAH that the Kabaka takes the tribe / clan of
his mother. True?!
Noc'l
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--- Den lör 2012-10-13 skrev Bobby Musoke <[email protected]>:
Från: Bobby Musoke <[email protected]>
Ämne: Re: {UAH} did not commit any crimes, Dr. Milton Obote insists
Till: [email protected]
Datum: lördag 13 oktober 2012 15:35
But Mr George Okello was making the same argument about Obote's kids being
Baganda on this very forum not too long ago.
UPC thinks they can nationalise the idea of being a muganda.
Baganda are a patrilineal society and the kids generally take the tribe of
the father.
Obote's kids are Langi thru and thru.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:26 AM, daudi kasirye <[email protected]
<http://mc/[email protected]> > wrote:
no....just retired ....senile?
On 10/13/12, Frank Mujabi <[email protected]
<http://mc/[email protected]> > wrote:
> Was Obote delusional at this stage ?
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Frank Mujabi
> <[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> Alecho
>>
>> Obote said
>>
>>
>> Baganda are my friends. I am married to a Muganda, my children are
>> Baganda, I am a Ugandan and therefore I am a Muganda.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Alecho Jesse <[email protected]
<http://mc/[email protected]> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Simon Nume [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> 14/04/2005
>>>
>>> to ugandanet
>>>
>>>
>>> did not commit any crimes, Dr. Milton Obote insists
>>> I AM A MUGANDA: Obote
>>>
>>> Former President Dr. Milton Obote is expected to return on May 27. BBCs
>>> Veronica Edwards caught up with him to explain his plans. Below is the
>>> interview
>>> Q: When, and if, do you intend to return?
>>> Answer: I will go home. There is no question about my not going home. I
>>> will go home when conditions about the dictatorship have been removed.
>>>
>>> Q: What do you mean by conditions of dictatorship?
>>> Answer: Oh! One party state and matters like that.
>>>
>>> Q: You are talking about one party dictatorship, but now we understand
>>> that multipartyism is allowed and will flourish in Uganda. So that is a
>>> good beginning?
>>> Answer: What do you mean by a good beginning? In the Constitution, there
>>> is Article 80 about parliamentary candidates. But there is also
>>> something
>>> about regulation, which they have not removed. Regulation does not allow
>>> anybody to be a member of a party in order to be a parliamentary
>>> candidate.
>>>
>>> Q: When exactly do you now think you will go home because obviously
>>> President Museveni.... (Obote interrupts)
>>> Answer: We are campaigning, since 1986, I did not know that I would
>>> reach
>>> this condition, this situation where you can ask me Answer: I am already
>>> off age. I dont want to be an MP. I have produced very many young men.
>>> I
>>> want them to be MPs.
>>>
>>> Q: Are you too old to be president.
>>> Answer: Well if other people think that they are not too old, Im
>>> certainly not with them.
>>>
>>> Q: What makes you think you cannot be a good president. Obviously you
>>> still have your faculties, you have the common sense to be able to know
>>> whether you are old.
>>> Answer: I still have my faculties I can still be a good president. But I
>>> have been there I know how vexing it is. I dont want to be president
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Q: Why not? If your UPC people ask you to stand. Will you say no?
>>> Answer: I am a leader, I m not to be led. If people ask me I will tell
>>> them what I think. I will tell them I dont want to stand.
>>> Q: Do you think people in Uganda will be very excited to see you or
>>> there
>>> will be some mixed feelings?
>>> Answer: They will be very excited to see me.
>>>
>>> Q: What about those who are not so excited to see you, for example, the
>>> Baganda who are not happy that you kicked out their king.
>>> Answer: Baganda are my friends. I am married to a Muganda, my children
>>> are Baganda, I am a Ugandan and therefore I am a Muganda.
>>>
>>> Q: What about people who are now getting upset with you that you kicked
>>> out all the top executive people in the UPC who would have made your
>>> party
>>> a strong party?
>>> Answer: UPC is very strong. I have not kicked out anybody at all. I have
>>> just reorganised the party. I have been advised. I dont do things on my
>>> own, I get advice from home. The names came from home, the materials
>>> came
>>> from home. I have already decided a new party reorganisation. I have
>>> already put up candidates of advisors. And they have got to advise me on
>>> two matt ers, which I think are very important.
>>> One is the relationship between the UPC and the G6. G6 are other parties
>>> opposed to Museveni. Secondly is the level playing field with Museveni.
>>>
>>> Q: What exactly is the future of UPC? Can you see them making any
>>> difference at all?
>>> Answer: Oh yes, UPC will win the elections because we are the oldest
>>> party and know our country.
>>>
>>> Q: So May 27, you will definitely arrive in Kampala?
>>> Answer: No, no, no, May 27 is not my problem. My problem is the
>>> dictatorship to go out of Uganda. If dictatorship can go out tonight. I
>>> would be there by tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Q: Can you ever see yourself in the same room with President Museveni to
>>> sit down and talk?
>>> Answer: No, no, no, the man killed my father, killed my mother. I dont
>>> want to meet him.
>>>
>>> Q: Because of that, you are not prepared to forgive and forget?
>>> Answer: Oh no! Would you do that when a person kills your father and
>>> mother?
>>>
>>> Q: You dont seem to see any thing good in President Museveni, do you?
>>> Answer: NoI dont see anything good. A person kills my father, killed my
>>> mother and he killed very many Ugandans; I am very hurt about it. My age
>>> does not take care of my being hurt.
>>> Published on: Wednesday, 13th April, 2005
>>> *Regards*
>>>
>>> *Jesse *
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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>
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