For all intentions and purposes I need 9 Million, and I do not care if I am
among the dead. This shit needs to stop. Geez !!!!!!!
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allan
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:43 PM
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {UAH} FW: [Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
EM,
Ten million will be good enough. I intend to be among the dead!
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca>
wrote:
Charles Aliga
I honestly love you with all my dear poor heart for I have exchanged issues
about Uganda with you all along and you mean what you say, and you have no
bad intentions. But I question what you know about Museveni today thanks to
Tinyefunza. What inside story do you know about The Movement that you did
not know thanks to Tinyefunza? Tinyefunza is a killer but a punk as Dr Kiiza
Besigye was. People we are revolving underneath a Movement tent and what we
need is to think out of the Movement firkin tent. Out of the tent of the
Movement. Not Kiiza Besigye not Tinyefunza Not Mushega not Mugisha Muntu
anybody but a past Movementists.
And I have a solution sir, let Museveni go we will have a civil war half the
people will die and we will hold this discussion again, God we have 36 or so
million people. To be serious with you I do not need a firkin 20. 16 million
can be a god start.
Geez !!!!!
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aliga Charles
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:28 PM
To: uganda forum
Subject: RE: {UAH} FW: [Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
EM
First of all, I don't think you have any better solution for ugandans to
solve their predicament. Instead
you are in this forum jumping from one to another criticizing each and every
proposal one gives. Especially when its against the power that be in
Ugandan. Are you really concern about the people suffering.
27 years with ugandan moving around with NRA/M yoke on their neck. you still
say not Besigye bla, bla, bla. Not Muntu bla, bla, bla. Not Tinye bla, bla,
bla. I think you do not know wat exactly ugandans are going through. Or, if
you know, you get blinded by the goodies you get the the unforseen hands.
Otherwise, your arguement always leave one wonder where you stand.
Please, give uganda a solution to their problems. They are suffering. Tinye
is like the prodigal son who got lost but came back. He may have done many
bad things during his time with the regime, but today is not the time for
that. Today is the time to take ugandans out from the quagmire they are in.
May be where you are, you neve sleep hungry. Where you are, your security is
well assured. Where you are, your children don't lack. But, there are many
ugandans who have no food, no good hospitals, no clothings, no bright
future. Their only hope is God or the coming back of Jesus Christ. Is that
what you want? Ugandans need help even from Tinye who was thier torturer.
Their only need and hope is freedom and good governance. They cannot get
that if we continue fighting those who come out of the system to fight the
same system.
Rember, when some UNLA left and joined NRA, they were not accused as
murderer but were accepted as
fellow ugandans. This was the trick NRA used to win the hearts and mind of
those UNA soldiers who may have the interest to leave the forces, as well as
the people.
EM, if you really care about the suffering people of uganda today, what will
you gain from fighting Besigye? What will you gain from fighting Tinye, or
Muntu? Don't you think what is needed is freedom first, other things second?
_____
From: mulin...@look.ca
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
CC: uganda...@yahoogroups.com; ugandanet@kym.net; on...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: {UAH} FW: [Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:25:01 -0400
Aliga Charles
If you understand the strength of Musevenis government, you would actually
realize that an exit of 50 Tinyefunza type does not threaten it. Aliga I was
educated how the exit of Dr Kiiza Besigye is drowning the government, My God
he is the political commissar, my God he structured out the murdering of
Northerners, my God he educated Baganda on how to open the brains of people
bare handed. Well it is 2013 and Kiiza Besigye is a simple other crappy
thief that exited the movement, he never educated you to what you never knew
about the Movement to start with.
Tinyefunza is a murderer and he has to Hague it fairly or unfairly.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aliga Charles
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:12 PM
To: uganda forum
Subject: RE: {UAH} FW: [Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
Opening a case against Tinye will send a wrong signal to those in M7
government who may
have the same intention. This is not the right time for that. This is the
time to encouragement not
case opening. Let as many as posible come out (exile) until the regime
falls.
By opening a case, will make those still in the regme now defend the regime
more
than before. Sometimes we need to think before we act.
_____
From: mulin...@look.ca
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com; uganda...@yahoogroups.com;
ugandanet@kym.net; on...@hotmail.com
Subject: {UAH} FW: [Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:56:09 -0400
From: ugandanet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:ugandanet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf
Of Mitayo Potosi
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:52 PM
To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda
Subject: [Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
[Ugnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
My God, I couldnt believe Yoga Adhola is so silly, myopic and unprincipled
for urging folks to line behind Tinyefunza!!
Tinyefunza is the regime, for crying out loud!!
He is the one who sodomised, stole all the herds of livestock.
How many Aswa Ranch cows alone? Is it 10,000 or 20,000?.
There was so much simsim looted from all the granaries and silos.
How do you think Tinyefunza built his palace on Kyengera hill, with swimming
pools and all?
Have you forgotten the Running Banquet that the late Monitor Columnist,
Kevin Omara-Alilo constantly described and regaled? The midnight Parties,
the eating of roast ribs with loved ones dangling their feet in the swimming
pool, the fine spirits and wines
It is all in the Kevin Aliro Minitor archives, you all can check it up !!
All the cars, lorries, tractors that were commandeered
Even broken
machinery is fortune as scrap metal.
On BBC Tinyefunza put on display all this wealth. The wealth and millions
from the Acholi plunder, dressing in a silk shirt, silk pants, designer
Jacket, handcrafted shoes.
The shoes alone are $20,000? $50,000? Who knows?
For sure there must have been a lot of wealth in Acholi Province. The
Kyengera banquets of the Happy Valley type of 24/7 perpetual orgies
never finished this money.
But Tinyefunza has the temerity to write in the Monitors-Agha-Khans rag
of a paper about how m7 has impoverished wananchi,
.. and then he parades
to the world the silk splendour that used to be the Aswa cows, wananchis
simsim etc
Folks, now you watch Tinyefunzas flat in London for an anchor of the
Kyengera days. Me I wonder who the Monitor columnist will be this time.
And how Yoga Adhola would suggest that we line up behind this man really
defeats me.
==========================
NB For Komakech and all that are collecting information from Ottawa, please
also look for the CIDA files on how many railway wagons Ottawa replaced the
ones in which Mugisha-Muntu burnt the children.
We want to know how many wagons were burnt to estimate the number of the
children.
Was it 100 or 30,000 children?
Will Mugisha-Muntu ever supply the answer, one day, hopefully?
Mitayo Potosi.
> > Yoga Adhola.Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:17:13 -0700
> > From: mokoms0...@yahoo.com
> > To: upc...@upcparty.net
> > Subject: Re: [Upcnet] Morris Komakech and General Tinyefunza
> >
> > Yoga Adhola in particular and other Comrades,
> > Your perceptions of your reality are a continuous evolution of what
unfolds
> > before your subjective self, and so are ours. On the matter of
Tinyefuza, it
> > is a subject that was widely discussed and indeed, it was decided that;
> > 1. It is false argument that anyone can work against the NRM regime
using
> > the very elements within the regime. Clearly, we have examples of
Besigye,
> > Mugisha Muntu, Col Mande and now Tinyefuza. How much have you or
Ugandans
> > gained from them, other than Besigye's almost single handed attempts at
> > exposing and discrediting your NRM-O?
> > 2. That it is opportunistic for some of us to forget
> > so easily about the cruelty and the harshness with which the Tinyefuzas,
> > Kagames and others inflicted on Northern Uganda. Tinyefuza was a major
> > player and therefore he must be held accountable and made example of.
From
> > our experiences and realities, these are not silly decisions. They form
our
> > realities.
> > 3. It is very important to send a message to the likes of Kayihura,
Omala,
> > Kaweesi and those depriving Ugandans of their constitutional rights that
> > there is always a time to be held accountable.
> > 4. It is amazing how you call our moves silly, considering your many
claims
> > that you have been at Capitol Hill and you understand how these systems
> > work. We also understand how Ottawa works and just to correct you, we
did
> > petition Ottawa on Tinyefuza's war crimes records that must be
investigated.
> > A copy of our petition was published in the Redpepper. There are
particular
> > clauses in the immigration act which places scrutiny over anyone
suspected
> > of crimes against humanity, including genocide for exclusion, and where
> > possible, prosecution. It is those that we begged to get activated.
People
> > should not be let to run free unaccounted for their evil doings.
> > 5. Finally, UPC and all the so-called opposition parties have become
> > increasingly opportunistic and are incapable of holding the regime and
its
> > minders accountable on any human rights or constitutional violations.
This
> > explains why most human rights reports appear mostly credible when
reported
> > by external agencies, such as HRW or Amnesty International. Most of
UPC's
> > so-called leaders are already in the pockets of the NRM and we know that
> > they are being used to cripple or undermine the opposition.
> > Given the above and the prevailing lack of proper structures or
mechanisms
> > in place to act [build consensus], it was prudent that some of us took
> > leadership. I must say that our efforts have been commended by many who
know
> > that current self proclaimed ideologues and leaders in UPC are a talking
> > shop of angry walking libraries and nothing other!!
> > It is not strange that Canada is listening!
> > Komrade P!
> > Remember...U.P.C. as a Party of Unity, Peace & re-ConciliationSometimes
> > people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented
with
> > evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence
> > cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely
> > uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so
important
> > to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny
> > anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief. Frantz Fanon, Black
> > Skin, White Masks
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We must dare invent the future!
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